الي عائلة سلطان عبدالله عسيري ،، / To the Family of Sultan Abdullah Asiri

الي عائلة سلطان عبدالله عسيري ،، / To the Family of Sultan Abdullah Asiri
السلام عليكم
الي عايله سلطان عبدالله عسيري ،،
هدا الابن عار علي هذه العايله. في عام ٢٠٠٩ شهر ٥ كان سلطان يدرس في الجامعه وخلال هده الفتره رزقه الله بمولود وهدا سهل جدا اثباته عن طريق الطب المتقدم والتحاليل. وعندما ولد ابنه يوسف قال انه سوف يتكفل بمصاريفه وسجلاته …الخ. ولكن للاسف لم يوفي بوعده. لان يوسف سوف يكمل ٣ اعوام بعد شهر. في الواقع يوسف بشوش الوجه وطفل جميل ومليئ بالسعاده. سلطان هو من اختار هدا الاسم لابنه ليحمل اسم العايله. وللمعلوميه ان النيه في داخلي ليست طمع في سلطان للزواج به لان هدا سوف يكون ضار علي ابنه يوسف. وانا سالت وطلبت السجلات الصحيه لابني يوسف. وحاولت ان احصل علي هده المعلومات من سلطان ولكن لم استطع. وانا علي استعداد ان اتواصل معاكم في هدا الشآن. الرجاء الاتصال بي

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شكرا



Joseph – يوسف


سلطان & يوسف – Sultan & Joseph

سلطان -Sultan


Comment from Sultan to Joseph – تعليق من سلطان الي يوسف

“I was and still suffer from studying and homework..
I wish you a wonderful and enjoyable life, my life is very difficult, and still very difficult, all the decisions that I have made were so difficult, non was simple. But, I love you and I love your mother, and I wish you all a wonderful life.” Written by Sultan Abdullah Asiri


(English Translation)

To the Family of Sultan Abdullah Asiri who reside in Riyadh Saudi Arabia.
This letter is to inform you of the actions of your son Sultan Abdullah Asiri has and still continues to shame your family name. In may 2009 while Sultan was studying at the University Of Findlay, he fathered a son. This can easily be proven with DNA.When Joseph was born he said he would always help financially and he would make available his medical records. To date he has done neither of those things.

Joseph will be 3 years old in May, he is a bright wonderful child that is so full of happiness. My beloved husband has chose to raise Joseph as his child and Joseph has taken his last name. Please know my intent is not to marry your son or have him be a father in any way that would be detrimental to the child. I do ask for any medical records that are relevant to my sons health be available. All attempts to get this information from Sultan have been exhausted. I am willing to communicate with you on this matter, Please contact me at http://saudichildrenleftbehind.wordpress.com/


UPDATE. 11/07/2012

I have learned so much in the past year, the ups and downs have been enough to try anyone’s patience but through all the hardships I have found the most amazing people. They have been my saving grace during this difficult time. The family we have created and the bonds we share will last a lifetime.

Our numbers seem to keep growing and yet the Saudi Govt. is yet to take any action in disciplining their own people when they study abroad. The young and old men in our website still continue to live their life as if they were proper Muslim men marring virgin wives. The word whore is often used to describe the women effected. Family’s of these men ( Sultan Asiri’s family as well) when they are informed about their sons behaviour have a reaction that baffles us in the west. Pretending the problem does not exist seems to be the way some Saudis deal with a problem that is staring them in the face.

The majority of the women and adult children are Muslim and are raising their children alone. My dilemma there is with my own son is the fact that my sons father uses Islam as his excuse for his neglect and total abandonment of his son. How as a mother can I raise my son Muslim when his own father says that is why he hates his son? Why would I raise my son to ever believe that actions like that are acceptable because he is a male muslim? How can he pray to Allah and beg him to know his father while his father is praying that he never has to hear the name Joseph Martin or Jenniffer ever again. My son deserves better than that.

A Note To Sultan Abdullah Asiri.
Sultan,
I try to think back to a time when you and I were inseparable, up all night just talking about anything and everything that would pop in our heads. Hanging out with Fahad, Falah, and Tareq laughing so hard we thought we would die. You were in love with me and I you.
When I became pregnant you insisted I kill our child if I wanted to keep you you then showed me how important I truly was by sleeping with every girl you met and telling them you never knew me and you have no children. In the beginning people believed your lies and tall tales……then they get a look at your son and they all immediately know that you were a stone cold liar. Your defence was so unoriginal and comical….”o ya I know her she is crazy she says every saudi is the dad” REALLY??? First off look in a mirror and you will see what Saudi is the daddy. Second you KNOW you were the only man I was intimate with!! I was madly in love with you. I remember a time you lost your scholarship and were broke and homeless, I was struggling to put food on the table for my children and I took you into my home paid your bills washed your clothes and fed you. How is the favour repaid? You get your scholarship back after 8 months of living off me and my family and you go out and spend 3,000 dollars on a big screen tv for your new party pad while I have to get on welfare just to feed and clothe our son. I begged you for 10 dollars for diaper s and you flew into a rage saying you whore you only got pregnant so you can have my money, I tell you what let me send you a bill of money spent on Joseph thus far and see if the thousands of dollars I spent and the 0$ you gave seem logical at all.
When I created the website I hadn’t heard from you in months, when you found out about the website you broke into my house and hacked my computer with a key-logger and stole Joseph birth record. I had often wondered why you stole Josephs birth record? A few weeks ago I got my answer when you sent me the e mail with a picture of Josephs birth record saying I am a liar because your name was not on the birth record and my husbands name was put on file as his father. Sultan you know why I didn’t want your name on his birth record.
Now I can explain to the readers as to why.
I didn’t want Sultans name on the official birth record first and foremost he threatened if I did he would kidnap Joseph and I would never see him again (RED FLAG) With all the international child custody horror stories out there I refuse to ever give him access to my son when he is threatening to take him if I put his name on file or tell anyone that he is the father. Then there is the issue that Sultan did not want anything to do with his son, why on earth would I put his name down….Sultan does not deserve the honour of being listed as a father he is clearly not father or husband material. When I was presented with the fact that my husband could adopt Joseph and be put on his birth record I jumped on it. My husband who wants to be a father and loves every second he spends with his little arab prince deserved to adopt Joseph and be legally considered his FATHER. The safety and well-being of my son is to important to have a mad man listed as his dad. The day is coming where Sultan will be forced to do a DNA test and no amount of scheming lying and hiding will help. I look forward to the day I can post the results.

Just by some small miracle you are secretly wondering about how Joseph is doing in past couple of years……
Sultan he is still so short….he is going to have a little man complex….sound familiar?
His favourite colour is green and he loves to watch Yo-Gabba_Gabba & Pocoyo.
He loves spaghetti and pizza and can eat as much as a grown man. Sleeping with his blue blanket and pillow I made him for Christmas is a funny event every night. You would be so proud of how smart he is he can count all the way to a thousand and knows how to count by two’s threes excreta. Scary smart!! He loves to sing and dance to every day often on the black coffee table you left in my house. The sensitivity to clothes you had as a boy he shares, nothing scratchy on him or he will just strip all his clothes off ..even in public :)
Joseph is the poster child for cuteness. I do feel bad that you will never know what a light he is in this dark world. You will never know what it feels like to feel the world crashing down on you and have those small hands wrap around you in a hug and seeing the eyes of an angel looking back at you while he smothers you in kisses making all the troubles melt away. You have no idea what you have lost, the feeling of happiness you always wanted are not wasted on Matt, who is teaching Joey to be a little man. We get to see the child you refuse to and you have nothing to show of your life. I hope you will contact me about Joseph. Open your heart to the one person in your entire life who will want to know about you. He is your son…..please don’t have hate in your soul for an innocent child who did nothing wrong but have us as his parents.

Thank you.

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231 Comments

231 thoughts on “الي عائلة سلطان عبدالله عسيري ،، / To the Family of Sultan Abdullah Asiri

  1. Anon

    ماشاءالله رايح يدرس بامريكا ولغته العربيه زي وجهه

  2. Fred

    So sad to say that but you weren’t more than a sex toy to him. He betrayed you and his son. He will never reply to you. Forget about him and try to find a good stepfather and raise your kid as a good Christian person and teach him not to be a coward like his father.

    • I feel that way sometimes as well. I think it is difficult to not feel used.

    • abu abdullah

      I really was sad and upset about your sad story, and I am sure you are not alone , there are many such cases , so first of all this is part of your fault , since you trust like this type of stray guys ,
      however this not the right time to blame you.
      Just as the previous comments said , take care of your handsome child, and I hope you enjoy him Instead of his coward father, and I am sure he will enjoy you while he grows up .
      My best. Abu Abdullah

  3. Dalila

    your son is so handsome masha’allah , i wish publishing this by you and the other mums serves the purpose … and i also wish if the American women out there to think a billion time before accepting a relationship with men from this part of the world , we Arabs are different and when guys like Sultan and the rest go to America they forgot it all and get overwhelmed with the way of life and want to try it all … and adventure brings victims like baby Joseph and other beautiful innocent children …. i hope by publishing this you get what you aim , and i hope any American or any girl in this world learn from your experience and think logically before making any step into relationship with men from outside her country , someone you can’t track or reach …. we shouldn’t be selfish and only live the moment .. if this moment will get bring up babies to this world for dads so careless like that …. May Allah help you all , and please publishing this is a great idea but let’s not generalize the situation here … we have many Arabic men in general and even Saudis who married foreigners and stayed with them and lived normally …. Sultan , Bahi and the rest guilty fathers are representing them self’s not the Saudi nation nor Arabs or Muslims please don’t make this sound like we Muslim Arabs are so ignorant like those men ……. I am an Arabic Muslim woman from the Arabian gulf … and your stories really touched my heart …. but I don’t want this to effect the reputation negatively on my religion Islam or origin (ARAB) …..
    و السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

    • Dalila
      Thank you for your comment. I agree that not all Saudi men should be judged by what these men here have done, but I do think that women should be very careful dating a Saudi man just because the culture is so very different than ours in the US.

      • Anonymous

        حرام. عليك. تسوي. بنفسك. وفي. هالطفل. كذا.

  4. Amoora

    Without sounding insensitive, this is a common story. Foreign men impregnating western girls.. Western girls need to familiarise themselves with deep rooted cultures such as the arab world. Arabs tend to have loyalty to their own first and foremost. Western girls aren’t to be taken seriously and the reason why they get away with what they do is due to their misconstrued notion that you have no sexual boundaries; based on their oppressive countries, its paradise by their interpretation.
    What I sadly hear from many naive western/european girls working in the mid east is ‘my mohammed is different’..NO he is not different! He is the same as the next mohammed and the same Mohammed before him… and he will NEVER chose you over his family, his religion, his culture.

    I am muslim. I am of arab heritage. I was born and raised in the west, so I clearly see both sides and can confidently say that assimilation is possible and it has happened, however rare. It would take a lot of change and compromose from the western woman to adapt to a new culture and faith. Islam is beautiful in every sense, but you need to learn it on your own and not judge any of it from muslims you meet. Islam is beautiful, unfortunately not all muslims are… God bless your son. If you could raise your child without hatred of his biological father and remind him he is half muslim, than you will be doing justice to your son in the future. Let him decide as he gets older and hopefully become as wonderful and accepting as his mother.

  5. Skull

    شوف وجه التيس و احلب لبن

  6. salman

    الشرهة ماهيب عليهم الشرهة على وزارة التعليم العالي اللي تبعث الدشير! هالحين اخوي له سنة وانا اطلب منهم يضمونه للبعثة ويمرمطون بي وهو مجتهد ومتفوق بدراسته..ومثل هالسلقي يصرفون عليه وبالاخير مقضيها لعب ودشة..انسان ماله مبادىء لاهو اللي تزوج الحرمة وصار رجال وقد المسئولية ولا هو اللي عف نفسه بالبداية..هذولا هم عاهات المجتمع وانصاف الرجال..حقه جندي بسلاح الحدود وكل يوم يحطون على ظهرة حطب..لا ومسوي فيها رومنسي ويلعب بهالادمية المسكينة..من جد لا رجولة ولا دين ولا كرامة..

  7. Anonymous

    سرابيت مجمعه

  8. Setah

    لا حول ولاقوة الا بالله
    أبو سروال وفانيلة فاضحنا في كل بلد
    قسم بالله اننا معاكم ولاتسكتين إلى أن تاخذين حقك

    ع بالهم سعودية بتنطم وتسكت وتتجرجر بالهيئات والمحاكم وتنذبح بالأخير :)

  9. NAS

    حرام عليهم .. مسؤولين عن اولادهم

  10. NAS

    Excellent keep up the Web site so take your rights

  11. Anonymous

    قحيبُ مجمعٌهه

  12. rawan

    يعني مدام انك خربتها ليه ماخدتلك وحده مزيونه ورشيقه مالقيت إلا ذي الجيفه ركبتي إحلى من وجها هههه

    • ربّ كلمة يقولهاالمرء لا يلقي لها بالاً تهوي به في النار سبعين خريفا
      والمسلم في مثل هذه الحالات يحمد الله الذي عافاه من هذه البلوى
      الحمد لله الذي عفانا مما ابتلى به هذا الإنسان وفضلنا على كثير ممن خلق تفضيلا

      • أبو عوف

        كلماتك حق تريد بها بالطل اقول انت ونيتك فاذا كانت نيتك خير الله يجزاك الخير واذا كانمت نيتك شر الله ينتقم منك ومن امثالك

  13. sonah

    أتمنى من كل قلبي أن يمسكونه ويخلونه يربي هالولد ويصرف عليه لأن هالشي حرام ؤالله مايرضى فيه ؤلا المجتمع يرضى فيه وان شا الله توصلون للي تبونه :(

    • سعودي وافتخر

      طيب وليه ما رفعت عليه قضية ان كانت صادقة! كبّروا دماغكم يا عالم! هذي عملية نصب وابتزاز مشهورة ومعروفة وما يصدقها إلا المخفات

      • أبو عوف

        والله تعليقك قهرني وين وصية رسول الله انصرو أخاكم ظالما او مظلوما ، إنت جاي تدافع عن هالواطي الفاجر السافل الي طالع ينيك وما يبغى مسؤولية بلاش مصرخة كفاية الفضايح الي في السعودية كل يوم نياكة واغتصاب وخلوة وخطف واخرها ثلاثة في مكة ينتحلون صفة رجال امن ويخطفو اسيوية مسلمة زوجة وام لاطفال امام زوجها لاجل يغتصبونها وشردو وماحد حصلهم انت فين عايش الله ينتقم منك اذا انك بتشجع على الزنا والنيك والدعارة والفساد اتقي الله يا ولد واخرس وقفل فمك ليجي واحد من امثال دولي السفلة ويدعس على راسك وبعدين تندب حظك واتقول ياريتني كنت صادق وقلت الحق ومعليش معليييش الماسي كثيرة خدامات اندنوسيات يتسفرن لبلدهن حوامل وغير الاغتصاب والنيك اليومي لهم وغير لمن يسافرو برا الشباب السعوديين نسبة كبيرة منهم هدفهم النيك بس نيك نيك شهوة الله ينتقم منهم شوهو سمعة العرب والمسلمين الله ينتقم منهم الله يحقرهم والله يشلهم الله يجعلهم يتمنون الموت وما يحصلونه الله يصيبهم بامراض مالها علاج الي يسوون كذا وكمان ادعو الله بنفس الدعوات على كل من يدافع عنهم الله اكبر حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل

      • RAWAAH

        يعني بعد الصور دي كلها برضو تقولي عملية ابتزاااااز اقول فكيناااا

      • سعودية وما افتخر

        اللي يقول نصابة وليش ماترفع قضية…. إجراءات رفع القضايا في المحاكم الامريكية تكلف مبالغ طااائلة…ثقافة التشكيك واللف والدوران خلها عنك في السعودية
        لولا الشرهة كان قلتوا الولد فوتوشوب
        هَزُلت

      • اها…واضح عملية ابتزاز….والدليل الشبه العظيم بين الأب والإبن…
        وصور الأب مع الابن
        ومع المرا

  14. hee

    ياعمرررررري ذا الضعيفه هي وولدها مسكينه :(

  15. Dahlia

    I am so sorry you and others have to go through this, as a commet(er) before me said, Saudi men when abroad in countries with freedom in relationships that comparatively have no sexual boundaries, lose themselves in its freedom. When its time to face responsibility, facts, and ofcourse home, they bail.

    I really hope all of you find each and every one of those men. I hope their own families find out what kind of cowards they raised, having the audacity to call themselves men.
    This is not what any man, let alone a muslim man should do.

    Alot of Saudis and muslims would say; well you had it coming cause you werent married etc. But married or not, that child and other children still have fathers, and all fathers owe it to their children to be there in any way they can. Even if he is dead, then it is his family’s duty to help.

    I respect what this site is trying to achieve, and I wish you all luck.

    Sincerely,
    Dahlia

  16. ريم

    ي ال حقارتكم ي السعودين
    مااقول الا حسبي الله عليك وع امثالك

    • السعوديين مو كلهم سواء ..

    • Abdulaziz Al-Assiri

      و انا ما اقول الا حسبي الله عليك

      اصابع يدك ماهي سوى

      ان كان غلط فحسبي الله عليه

      لكن تجي و تدعي على السعوديين كلهم !!
      فحسبي الله عليك

  17. MarT

    مايحتاج DNS
    يكبر الولد وتحصل في ايده ميرندا فراولة

  18. NeenHB

    7sbi allah wan3ma alwakeel </3

  19. life in riyadh , i wanna help but i need more information

  20. Amoora

    Can you please write in english so we could all understand

    • random as in really random

      we need less people like you with western pride u are arabish just like any other so quit all the i dont understand what u said BS

      • DH

        What this ‘man’ did was absolutely wrong but with all do respect he speaks for himself. Not all arabs are like him, in fact not all people are like him. You should judge a person by THIER actions not whom they represent. Salamu Alaikum.

    • Anonymous

      Ues Google translate :)

  21. Anonymous

    لوهن سعوديات كان قلتوا يستاهلن تناقض الله يقلعكم

  22. MarT

    Great, this is working and ppl here in Saudi Arabia started talking. Want my suggestin? Dont leave this trash ppl. Chase them everywhere, in social media, internet, try to let every one around him knows about his actions. These hypocrite ppl always claim that they have a white & clean reputation.

  23. Anonymous

    God bless da chill and his mum
    So sad
    I have one point
    Not all saudi pp like him :)

  24. Anonymous

    حتى بعد عشرة الامريكيات برضو لابس الفانيلة مايجووووز

  25. Anonymous

    Damn man! What the wrong with the boy! he got face his father but his heart is strong like his mom! sorry for your dad :((
    لاحول ولا قوة الا بالله

  26. gh-j-a

    يازين حكومتنا لو يطبقون الشرع ويحكمون عليه بحكم الاعزب الليي يزني
    واللي بيجي يكلمني ويناقشني ابقول له هذا شرع الله موجود في القرآن والسنه ولانقاش في حدود الله
    الله اعلم منك يوم وضعها

    • مشاكس

      وهل ثبتت جريمة الزنا بكامل اركانها حتى يقام عليهم الحد

      لو كل شرموطه من مرتادي الكبريهات بالعالم الساقط فتحت كسها للرايح والجاي حصلت مجال كان اشتغلوا شبابنا لانهم يحبونا كثير ؟؟؟؟؟ وكل وحده تتمنى سعودي وافهم يافهيم

      هذا نتاج الحريات اللي مالها حدود في الغرب وبعض الدول اللي سارت على نهجهم وخلت الحبل على الغارب للبنات لممارسة الرذيله عيانا بيانا بل تحث عليها وتدعمها للاستفادة منها في دعم السياحة

      نسأل الله ان يعزنا بالاسلام ويديم شرع الله فينا

      • Bnt almamlakah

        اصلا اكبر مشجعين وراعين للدعاره هم شباب السعوديه يابابا روح للبحرين ودبي والمغرب وتايلند كلها شباب سعودين من اللي يرتاد الدول المعروفة بالبغاء مؤ سعوديين من اللي يصرفون الملايين على الرقاصات مؤ سعودين لو الدول مالقت تشجيع من السعوديين ماكان اعتمد اقتصاد دوله كامله على دعاره والله عالم كم مرض حملوه معهم ونشروه لزوجاتهم اكبر مصفقين للفساد الأخلاقي هم رجال السعوديه الا من رحم ربي

  27. هادي

    ما يستاهل البعثة لو انا بداله كان شديت حيلي و رفعت راس اهلي و ما احتك مع اي بنت

  28. salem

    Shame on you .. i am Saudi and i am not proud of such a dirty people … if you are not responsible enough to have a baby … stay at your mother’s home and don’t behave as an adult … it’s horrible to imagine how people can leave their children behind ! ti’s under human imagination ,,, if the idea of leaving children behind is normal for you … do an urgent check for your mind!

  29. queen

    حسبي الله عليك ياسلطان زاني ولعين ماخساره صدق انك عار علي العالم ياوجهه التيس

    • meme

      حسبي الله عليك هذا قذف لا تتكلم قبل ماتتاكد هذولا كفار المفروض ماندعمهم

      • Bnt almamlakah

        ليه يختي قايمه تدافعين عنه الولد راكبه الخطأ من راسه لرجوله خليه هذه ثقافة شباب السعوديه وتلقينه يوم رجع للسعوديه يتشرط يبيله وحده حتى تلبس قفازات وستيره طيب ياكلاب السعوديه اذا تبي وحده ملتزمه ترا البنت المسيكنه تبيك ملتزم وتخاف ربك ماتبي واحد ماضيه اسود وسمعته طينه مستحيل أتزوج مبتعث

        يابنات لا تتزوجون مبتعثين

  30. الحمدلله الله لايبلانا المفروض مايترك هالبدوي وش موديه لامريكا هذا حده غنم بجبال عسير

    • تركي

      إقول خليك عاقله بس البدو تاج رأسك والبدو مالهم شغل إذا كان الأخ غلطان

    • Anonymous

      كولي تبن

    • مشاكس

      عاد من زينك اللهم لا شماته

      تري الفضل له ان سترك وقبل بيك وانا اعلم انه لو تقدم لك اسلح واحد بدوي بتبوسين رجله بس يقبل بك يالجيفه

  31. malak al thaqafi

    والله الواحد مايقول إلا الله يشغلهم في نفسهم اللي يررروحون بس يشوهون صوره الإسلام ويجون:’(
    لابوك لابو من ربآآآآآآآآآآآآآآك

  32. For everyone commenting in Arabic, please know I have not forgotten about you and I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I am trying to properly translate the comments.
    I do want to thank you for your comments and kind words, those that have been rude I thank you as well. I feel it is important to have all comments be posted even if they attempt to make me feel ashamed, but please know I would not have created the blog if their was not a large problem right now.

    For those who have come out in support; I thank you with all my heart, thank you for showing Joseph and myself that their are so many wonderful caring people in Saudi Arabia :)

  33. soso

    i can give you the phone number of his sister, this way is better for you more than him.

  34. meme

    وانتم اي شي ينحط تصدقونة ظلمتوالرجال حسبي الله عليكم ماتصدقون خبر وتنشرون ظلمتوة وظلمتو اهلة الظلم ظلمات يوم القيامة

    • Bnt almamlakah

      شكله قريبك ههههه خلاص مايمديك ترقعين حبيبتي صوره كلها طالعه حتى ومتلبس في الجريمه مصور وهو ماسك الولد وش اكثر دليل من كذا ههههه وعلى كذا تتحسبين على الناس تحسبي عليه بالاول الله يسود وجهه

  35. Anonymous

    ساسا كل تبن مدري كلي تبن على اساس الحضري اذا راح هناك مايزني بس البدوي الخلا وعدلي كلامك ياللحجيه

  36. Dema

    اقول فشلتونا يا كلاب السعودية قال بدرس برى قال قصدك تبي طبق يالمراهق وش تشوف بالافلام وع ياشينكم وياشين طموحكم الفاشل انتم عار علينا

  37. Cherry

    I am a girl from saudi arabia, I am so touched by your story, but I have to tell you some of saudi guys left their child from saudi girls. So these type they dont care
    May allah bless you

  38. Anonymous

    فاضحيننا فكل مكان حسبي الله عليكم منتو وجيه بعثات مااالت عليكم

  39. ديمو

    جعلهم السلال فضحونا بكل مكان

  40. meme

    ياناس مصدقين هالحثاله هذول ناس كدابين يبون يشوهون صورة السعوديين أنا ماصدق هذا كلها خرابيط المفروض نوقف مع عيالنا مو مع الكفار

    • Fahad Othman

      أقول لا يكثر بس !!! هذا الولد وزوجته برقبته يوم القيامة !! وش راح يقول لربه يوم القيامة ؟؟؟ الابن هذا وش ذنبه ؟؟ على الأقل يحسسه انه جنبه ويصرف عليه … مو ينساه …. اتقوا الله … ترا هي دنيا فانية وبعدين نموت … ما تستاهل ذنوب وظلم !!

  41. Nora

    hello,
    i don’t know why, but i’m very interested and concerned about this kid. i think his father will change his mind if he see these photos, his boy is just like an angel, please update this page if any thing happen. i would like to hear a happy ending, especially after these comments about his place and family … i’m waiting :)

  42. Nora

    please don’t take them as an example of Saudi people, in fact they are doing things prohibited in Islam and in Saudi community in general. i’m a Saudi girl and i don’t accept these behaviors at all.
    i wish for Joseph the best life.
    May God bless him and lead him to the right way. I really care about him, he is stealing my heart :”) .
    How could that father leave him behind !! … i’m sad :”(
    Please post more photos of Jo , i would love to see him :)

  43. naif alturki

    عيب عليك
    مثل ماكنت رجال وخلفت الولد
    ترجل وصلح غلطتك

  44. meme

    حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل لا تظلمون احد انتو مو متاكدين صحة هالكلام بعدين الدنيا فيها محاكم وشرطه ليش ماتروح تاخذ حقها بالقانون مو بهالطريقه

  45. mesho

    i went through al the comments ,, its just a small world ,, please tell us what happen ,,wish for u all the best

  46. Wana help.

    Miss,,please go easy on your self,,, who should be a shamed is sultan , not you, you should be proud of what you are doing right now,especially trying hard to take care of your son,by your self,plus I can tell you are a great mother,by trying to gather the father one more time,it’s so sad ,,, he will regret the result badly in the future, when he see this smart boy terning to young man, you are doing a great favor to sultan, and to the kid,,I am sure it’s from your pure wihte heart,,, and one more time, not all Saudi like that, I support what miss Nora has posted,,,, best wishes, hope to here a happy ending by a great gather, truly,,, you and sultan and the kid look just perfect together,

  47. Abu Mohammed

    I am realy So sad to read this Story it is looking that our Ministry of higher education sent some of lowest educated and
    Unscrupulous People to show the worst Example of ethics and hope that not all the students are same!! ….
    as i think in islam rule the saudi goverment should take care for this kids .anyhow all this problems should be corrected. as well as it`s required an action from the parents of those saudi fathers. it is not looking too difculte to find the them addres ? did u try with saudi Embassy? usa Embassy her in ryiadh? what about the previous University of this students ?
    also it could be easy to search through the peoble how have same common name for “Qabila” like AL-ASIRY AL-QARNI for each qabile there will be on Old man called ‘SHAIKH” his ressponsibolity to correct the ugly mistake if some thing happened by his followers mens. Also for each Qabila may u will find a Forums on The Internet it will be fine if yyou get some assist to spread those People Pictures ,thats sure you will find a replay about all required details.

  48. Wana help.

    Mr:Fred,,, please don’t scare the lady,,, non of what you said will happen,, I men come ooooooon, they will harm here for, telling the family, that they have a grand kid !!!!!!!!,,,, look from a Saudi mentality I will tell you exactly what would happen, they will get mad at him for a lees than a week,,,, then there will be a happy ending for the boy and the parents, ,,, trust me,,, I would say talk to the sis if she is mature, so she can talk to the parents of sultan, to get this matter solved,, be honest, no one in this world will touch one peace of your hair,,, relax be confident, what you are doing is very human, but I will recommend talking to a lady , a mature sister maybe,to pass the story to the parents of sultan,,look sultan is just afraid ,,I mean he is a young Saudi,,,,, you have to enter to his mentality and way of thinking,,,,he does not realize at this age what is he doing now,,,, is much much worse than the originall mistake,,,if his parents know,,,,, They will never allow, there grandkid, live like that.

  49. Amal

    This a huge shame for us Saudi to see how irresponsible our future generation is, you Americans are really sweet and you believe everyone and I HATE seeing how Saudi shitty men take advantage of that. I wish his dad do something about it, but let me tell you as a Saudi woman take this to court cause this is the only way you can get your right cause trust me even if you knew where he is and all the information you need saudi men are heartless.
    I feel so sorry about this and about what you and Joseph are going through, and as he said BE CARFUL I am a Saudi woman and I barley trust them
    Good luck

    • مستغرب من أمل و من بعض التعليقات

      heartless ? الله يسامحك امل
      على فكره تتجملون كثير في خطابكم للغربي لو هي هندية ماتوقع بتكلمينها كذا

      بس heartless? مره ثانيه الله يسامحك عممتي حالتك الخاصه علينا

  50. Wana help.

    O.M.G ,,, miss Amal, can we get together in here to have this butuifill family gathered, please,,, I mean , it’s true we Saudi who lived in the state, and we saw how honest and great they are,when we compare them to Saudi culture, a HUGE different, personally lived in California for 13 years, and back now, it’s not like American men never lie, and run away from respbansabilty,after they have a child ,, I have seen it all the time,,as a matter of fact, I really think Saudi men are warm in theire feelings,, regardless,,,can we be one hand in here to gather this butuifill family,sultan,the future wife of sultan “I hope ” and the child ,,,, that’s my AIM,,

    Please every buddy be consider it with you comments,,,I see some right, you been used sexually,,( so if it was American) and he did the same, you will call it ( break up) !!!!,,,,,,
    P.S :- she is not been used, the hall story is they love each other to death ” look at there picture” but,,, from the stupid culture we have,, he is too afriade to be open with his parents,,,,that’s all ,,,, I am sure ,if a relative to sultan mother or father deliver the info an educated way,,,,,, I GARRANTIE you miss Amal, sultan mother,, will rather die, than to see here grandson like that,,,,,,,,,,

  51. Majed

    To soso and, ( Saudi Children Left Behind )

    THANK YOU SO MUCH,,,

    And i hope more ppl can help these little flowers to reach their father’s.

  52. راعي كلمة

    صحيح لحجي ,,, ياخي مالقيت الا هذي تقضي وطرك فيها
    بيئة حيوانية اي حاجة وانتهينا
    انعدمت المراجل والنخوة ماعاد به رجال
    حسافة بس ياحيف على الرجولة اللي بك
    لا مباديء ولا قيم ولا دين يردعك
    تزوجها وصلح غلطتك ياخروف الجبل
    والضعيفة حاطة الأماكن تفكرها سيلين ديون
    والله كسرت قلبي

  53. Rahaf bnt Mohammed

    العمل رائع بس ما اعجبتني فكرة نعالج السوء بالسوء
    ، بلاصح التشهير ماهو علاج للقضيه ، ياللي فيه خير صحيح يروح للسفاره السعودية ويطلعون اسم المبتعث ويتواصلون مع اهله ،
    ، وفيه حديث عن الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم
    : ( من ستر على مسلم ستر الله عليه )
    يعني لكل شخص حط نفسك في مكان هالمبتعث الي هو عايش في ابتلاء الحين ، لابد.انه يغلط وابن ادم ماهو معصوم عن الغلط ،
    اللي سوا الموقع لو فيه فعلاً خير ويبي يجمع شمل الطفل مع الاب
    ماكان سوا هالتشهير بلاسماء والعوائل
    كان راح للسفاره وطلع اسم المبتعث وتواصلوا معاه
    أنا ما ادافع عن المبتعثين ابداً ، بس المسأله تعدت حدود الاصلاح

    • meme

      كل واحد سعى بنشر مثل هذي الأشياء وقام بالتشهير أحب أقول كما تدين تدان لا تقعد تتكلم وكانك رسول ماحد معصوم من الغلط بدال ماتدعمون هالكفار انصرو رسولكم اللي يسوون عليه أفلام ويسبونه صدق أنكم أمعه وتسوون يعنني رحمتوها هذي كذابه واتحدى أوقفو مع إخوانكم المسلمين مو مع الكفار أصحو شوي

      • أبو عوف

        والله تعليقك قهرني وين وصية رسول الله انصرو أخاكم ظالما او مظلوما ، إنت جاية اتدافعي عن هالواطي الفاجر السافل الي طالع ينيك وما يبغى مسؤولية بلاش مصرخة كفاية الفضايح الي في السعودية كل يوم نياكلة واغتصاب وخلوة وخطف واخرها ثلاثة ينتخلون صفة رجال امن ويخطفو اسيوية مسلمة زوجة وام لاطفال امام زوجها لاجل يغتصبونها وشردو وماحد حصلهم انت فين عايشة الله ينتقم منك اذا انكم بتشجعي على الزنا والنيك والدعارة والفساد اتقي الله يا بنت واخرسي وقفلي فمك ليجي واحد من امثال دولي السفلة ويدعس على راسك وبعدين تندبي حظك واتقولي ياريتني كنت صادقة وقلت الحق ومعليش معليييش الماسي كثيرة خدالمات اندنوسيات يتسفرن لبلدهن حوامل وغير الاغتصاب والنيك اليويم لهم وغير لمن يسافرو برا الشباب السعوديين نسبة كبيرة منهم هدفهم النيك بس نيك نيك شهوة الله ينتقم منهم شوهو سمعة العرب والمسلمين الله ينتقم منهم الله يرحقهم والله يشلهم الله يجعلهم يتمنون الموت وما يحصلونه الله يصيبهم بامراض مالها علاج الي يسوون كذا وكمان ادعو الله بنفس الدعوات على كل من يدافع عنهم الله اكبر حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل

      • Fahad Othman

        أي كذابة انت !!!! الولد باين عليه يشبه أبوه زي القمر !! حتى ينعرف من بعد كيلو !! يروح يصلح غلطته !! اذا ما يبي أمه بكيفه … بس يصرف على ولده !!

      • مستغرب من بعض التعليقات مثل ابو عوف

        ابو عوف؟!
        على ايش حقدك كله عالسعوديين؟ انا احس انك مقيم بالسعوديه لان اغلب الحقودين من العرب الي قلوبهم سودا و كلها شر علينا هي من المقيمين للاسف مع ان السعودي غالبا حسب مشاهدتي فيه خير للمقيم و العرب ومحبه لهم

        دايما استغرب منكم

        وبدال ماتقول الله يهديهم تدعي عليهم كانهم ضروك انت بشي او تعدو على عرضك ! وهي الحاله الوحيده الي ممكن القى مبرر لكلامك

        يا صاحبي دعوتك لهم بالهدايه افضل لانها ممكن متستجاب اما دعوتك عليهم بالي دعيت هذي تزيد قلبك غل و سواد و لله در الحسد ما اعدله بدأ بصاحبه فقتله.

        الله يشفيك و يهديك و ينور قلبك و يمسح عليه اتمنالك الخير من كل قلبي

    • أبو عوف

      والله تعليقك قهرني وين وصية رسول الله انصرو أخاكم ظالما او مظلوما ، إنت جاية اتدافعي عن هالواطي الفاجر السافل الي طالع ينيك وما يبغى مسؤولية بلاش مصرخة كفاية الفضايح الي في السعودية كل يوم نياكة واغتصاب وخلوة وخطف واخرها ثلاثة في مكة ينتحلون صفة رجال امن ويخطفو اسيوية مسلمة زوجة وام لاطفال امام زوجها لاجل يغتصبونها وشردو وماحد حصلهم انت فين عايشة الله ينتقم منك اذا انكم بتشجعي على الزنا والنيك والدعارة والفساد اتقي الله يا بنت واخرسي وقفلي فمك ليجي واحد من امثال دولي السفلة ويدعس على راسك وبعدين تندبي حظك واتقولي ياريتني كنت صادقة وقلت الحق ومعليش معليييش الماسي كثيرة خدالمات اندنوسيات يتسفرن لبلدهن حوامل وغير الاغتصاب والنيك اليويم لهم وغير لمن يسافرو برا الشباب السعوديين نسبة كبيرة منهم هدفهم النيك بس نيك نيك شهوة الله ينتقم منهم شوهو سمعة العرب والمسلمين الله ينتقم منهم الله يرحقهم والله يشلهم الله يجعلهم يتمنون الموت وما يحصلونه الله يصيبهم بامراض مالها علاج الي يسوون كذا وكمان ادعو الله بنفس الدعوات على كل من يدافع عنهم الله اكبر حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل

  54. Iirza

    نسبة الذكور عالية في المجتمع ,ولكن كم نسبة الرجال منهم ؟؟
    the ratio of males is high in society , but what’s the ratio for men ??

  55. jensen

    هذي آخرة آلمنايكه ، تستاهلين آنتي وياه
    كان تزوجتني من قبيلتس ، وخليتي هالسعودي آلمخيس

  56. Wana help.

    It will be my pleasure to help,,some of the comments,don’t really worth the time and the effort to translate,,, it’ far away from the main purpose and the mission of your blog ,,,, don’t think bad,, but they where making fun of his clothes,”FANELH”,, and saying, he should not wear that,,,,, nothing mean ,,,,,,,, if you wish I’ll do the translation,,but only between 9:30pm to 11:30pm ,, Saudi time,,,
    ( artisticmoment@hotmail.com) best regards.

  57. Wana help.

    oooooh by the way,,, not everything in Arabic, you can translate in google translation,, mmmmmm some are just ” inside jokes” or slangs ,,,,,, if you know what I mean ,,,, like daaaaaaaa , or what’s up,,,,or homeboy,,,,,, it mean something different than the actual word by word translation. t.c and best regard.

  58. ملاك

    استغفر الله انفضحوا الله لا يبلانا .. صور واثباتات .. الله يستر علينا دنيا وآخرة

  59. hass

    yes its sad to hear this story,,, bad guys and good guys every where, i am saudi men, from south of saudi arabia and living in western country for a few years, we cannot judge this guy he is bad or good coz we don’t know what is behind the story, but i only i can tell is that there is one problem which is our culture cannot accept western women because they have too much freedom and that what i can see from western society, i am living in Australia and there are a lots of story happened from western men to western women to those who left family behind from both side, i am living with Australian guy and he got five children from one wife and one day his wife decided to want be a single and she left the family behind for about 7 years also there are a lots of young girls they have a baby from someone who just want to enjoy for month and go back such UK forever……

    sorry to hear this story and i really feeling sorry for what happing now for western society

  60. God be with you sister. If there is any possible way to gather such cases or make a union with other girls that have the same issue through the U.S and complain to the Saudi embassy or any governmental organization to force these bastards to take responsibility on their children.
    By the way, your case has been published in Sabq.org, one of the most popular news websites in Saud Arabia, and I promiss that hundreds of thousands will watch it an interfere.

  61. أبو عوف

    إنت يا سلطان عسيري واحد نذل وأصلا ماكان هدفك زواج هدفك جنس ولا تآخذوني في الكلمة هاذي هدفك يا سلطان يا سافل يا حقير مو الزواج والستروالعفاف هدفك بديل عن الزنا يعني تبغى جنس شرعي بدون أمراض وبلا تكاليف وبدون شبهة الله يخزيك والله يخزي أمثالك قبل اسبوع في مكة المكرمة ثلاثة شباب سعوديين سفلة همج يدعون انهم رجال امن ويقتحمو بيت عائلة مسلمة اسيوية ويخطفو الزوجة لاجل يغتصبوها ويضربو الزوج ويربطونه والاطفال يصارخو وخطفو الزوجة وضربوها ووضعوها داخل السيارة بعد صلاة الفجر في شباب شهوانيين فجرة سفلة انجاس واكثير السفلة من السعوديين والخليجيين الي بطلعو بره لاجل الزنا والدعارة والنيك شباب ورجال سفلة إلا من رحم الله هدفهم بس نيك نيك ينك يا والله حرام انتو من بلاد الحرمين مهد الاسلام ليش ليش كل هدفكم شهوة نيك شذوذ نيك من قدام ومن ورا أنا ما بعمم ولكن في كثير سفلة منكم ولا تنسو قضاضا الفلبين واندنوسيا لمن يروحو هناك السعوديين ويتزوجو منهم فترة الاجازة وبعدين يرميها هي وجنينها ويهرب على المملكة للاسف ، اسمع يا سلطان الكلب الخنزير الانجس من بهيمة لمن حبلت زوجتك وخلف انكرت ابنك الله اكبر دليل انك انجس من اولاد الحرام تنكر ولدك وترميه اتتتفو عليك سافل بهيمة طبعا انكرته لانك تبغى تنيك بس بدون مسؤولية والحين طلعلك ولد يا فاجر يا فاجر اتففو عليك وعلى كل واحد سافل فاجر مثلك يسترحص بنات الناس وهدفه النيك والشهوة والله ينتقم منك ومن كل سافل افجر يشدك على يدك إنك تتنكر لزوجتك ولابنك طبعا وقت الشهوة والنيك هي حبيبتك ولكن لمن حبلت وخلفتلك ولد صارت عدوتك الله ينتقم منك ويجعلك عبرة يا نجس انت واشكالك

  62. Hello everyone. I would like to thank you all for taking the time to view the blog and make comments. Those who posted in Arabic I am working on getting them translated to I can reply properly so if you don’t see your comment listed it will be approved as soon as I can get it translated.

    First off I want to thank all those who have been supportive and sent messages offering help. Words can not express how grateful I am for all of your kind words. You have shown the world that there are wonderful people in Saudi Arabia. and you all are proof that not all Saudi’s hateful.

    Now for all that have chose to be cruel and leave comments saying that we are whores and are blackmailing the men for money…..Well in what world do you live in where when a woman tries to find the father of her child it is blackmail? I do understand why some in your culture consider us whores, but thankfully I live in a free society where we don’t treat others in that manner.
    Any woman who is currently in a relationship with a Saudi man please know what you are up against. You will find wonderful people who will be supportive but on the flip side many will not approve and if you find yourself pregnant with a baby by a Saudi you might find yourself on the receiving end of these malicious comments.

    I created the blog so other women would never feel alone or have to stand up alone. Your cruel comments only make me stronger and show me and the world why it is so important for us to stand up together against all those that would curse us.

    Ladies be strong and don’t let the distastefull comments bother you use them as the fuel that keeps you going. Remember we are doing this for our children and in the end it will be worth all the pain we have endured.

  63. Jazi

    أنا اقول ان السالفة كلها كذب بكذب لو هي صادقة تروح لسفارة مو تستفز العائلة كدا

  64. Do.it.today

    imediately

    Dear mothers left behind. 

    Please go and submit your information & documents to the Saudi consulate in the embassy. 

    Because the same happened before in other countries from limited guys who dont represent their country’s values. The saudi embassies announced a while ago a proccess for such fathers who left their wives & children behind. These fathers will be officially informed & obligated to take responsibility.

    Do it no later than now.

  65. Sinister Saint

    First of all, I’m Saudi. And i completed my higher education in Saudi Arabia.

    I don’t condone what Sultan did to you, He obviously wronged you here.

    However don’t try to pass yourself as the innocent one here.

    Both of you shoulder the blame for this, you know it takes two to tango. It takes two to conceive a child.

    You know why i know you’re vindictive? , It’s because you put all of the blame on Sultan and didn’t own up to anything.

    Your like Mother Teresa or something.

    The time where a woman says ‘Oops’ i got pregnant is in the past, In this day and age with the tools available to the women they totally control the pregnancy process and can time it even to when it’s convenient to them.

    According to the timeline mentioned, You met Sultan when you were 29 and he was roughly 19. a Teen.

    That’s a 10 years difference right there. Many studies consider a 10 years difference as a mark between a generation and another.

    You basically ignored that he was from a different generation than yours and pursued a romance with him.

    Also you ignored the following:

    1- Age difference.
    2- Religion difference.
    3- Culture difference.
    4- Race difference.
    5- Geographical difference.
    6- Maturity difference.

    And most importantly …. the purpose difference.

    Sultan was in the states to get an education … that’s it.

    That’s his whole purpose from coming to the United States.

    Once he finishes his education he will come back. He doesn’t have any binding interest that will make him stay afterwards in the US.

    So you as an Adult should have known better than to do this. And also known better than to dump all the blame on him.

    How did even think that he was gonna leave his country/family/future there just to stay in US?

    And even if he wanted, how could he support you not to mention a child who’s gonna need a lot of time and effort and money to raise.

    Do you know how much raising a child costs?

    Recent study shows that raising a child up to adulthood costs $235,000!.

    Let’s assume he had the money and wanted to marry you and everything was nice and dandy.

    How can you expect a person like him who’s by your own admission ‘Have low grades in the college’ to take care of a child?, If he can’t take care of himself and doesn’t realize that his best interest is to have high grades.

    How do you expect him to know the best interest and take care of a new born baby?

    You basically shared one roof with him, You must have seen those signs of irresponsibility oozing from him.

    What it boils down to is that you lusted over him, and he lusted over you….

    and when the accident happened and things went south, He became the boogy man monster.

    Many women think that a child can fix the things in the relationship, That it can bind the man to her and restore the love in the relationship …. This is false.

    Also a common belief that women think they can change men, which is also not true … Men don’t change, Only when it comes from within.

    Finally, The sooner you see that both of you were at faults and come to terms with that, The better off you’ll be.

    Let it go and move on.

    • Thank you for your comment. First I have never acted like mother Teresa, second how did you come up with him being 19? He was 23 when we met. I never ignored his culture I would often have long talks with him about his religion and culture. You are so correct that it takes two to tango, but I have held up my my end by loving and caring for our son. Just because someone gets poor grades does not mean they will be a bad parent or a bad person. I also would like to add I do not want to change Sultan….he did the changing all on his own. When we were together he was a wonderful caring man with a big heart, then when I became pregnant HE changed into a completely different person. I tried with all my heart to figure out how to deal with his changes. For letting it go and moving on….well my son deserves a mother who will fight tooth and nail to make sure he can have contact with his father if he so chooses as an adult. Just because Sultan does not want anything to do with his own flesh and blood does not mean that is the way it should be. To many women let men run all over them, the buck stops here.

      • Khalisa

        Come on, let’s be real here…of COURSE he was “wonderful caring man with a big heart”…he WANTED something from you! He’s scum and there’s so many men like this, it’s the oldest trick in the book that they play and sadly we women fall for it every time. Hindsight is 20/20 isn’t it? Let this be a bitter lesson for all of us…and yes my child was abandoned as well, although not by a Saudi but a Moroccan. May Allah swt guide us and protect us all.

      • Colie

        When and if he is ready he will contact you and your lucky you have your child and he left it at that and did not take him back home with you. Stop trying to fix something you have no control over. God makes no mistakes!!!!!!!!!!!! You did in Gods eyes by having sex outside of marriage.

      • Yes I made mistakes that is obvious, but at least I take care of my children. I am not lucky Sultan did not steal my son he never wanted him so no big threat there also I protected myself and my son legally from his father. When you pay my bills and put food on my table you can tell me to stop trying to fix anything for my son. You are not his mother and you have no idea the lengths I will go to protect him from all this crap when he gets older. I will fight until my dying breath for my son to never go through what I did with my looser father.

    • Burger King

      Coming from a fellow country-man I have too add that it is disgusting too pass these judgements and assumptions onto someone you do not know or have a complete understanding of the situation in question…
      I think after reading your message it is quite evident you completed you higher education in KSA as the education system is some what of a farce and lacks maturity as we speak in our present day and age. So I can only assume when you graduated it must have been even more of a dark sinister joke.
      Saudi’s love too criticize western women to no avail, calling them prostitutes sluts and animals, but every Saudi man I ever met within my generation has either used a prostitute in their life time or does so frequently (annually) When they let their hair down, take off their thoubs, put on their gucci and get on a flight too bahrain or indonesia too name just a few places…
      Infamous as they are once they arrive they will drink more than the Americans and cause more of a scene than any other race known on the planet (British would out do them on this however) and do many other unthinkable things.
      So please all you Saudis who like to snicker, judge and ridicule the “western whore” remember that in this civilized world not everyone has the same values and I think it is very un-islamic too persecute and judge someone in your thoughts for these very values.. Only God can do that..
      There is no need to scorn someone merely because they have different beliefs, the world would be a beautiful place if we could all get along despite having different beliefs and most people including Saudis are not virgins when they marry they only pretend to be, difference being the taboo norm in Saudi Arabia most young ppl here either turn gay or have sex with their girl friends in their ASS! Which is not only considered a homosexual act in Islam but is dangerous…. My point being, when a man decides too take risks and creates a baby there is no excuse for him to run away, no real man wants to know that he has a lost child out in the world, an extension too his family tree he will never know of… He knew the what the stakes were when he decided to have a relationship
      So I think your judgmental views have been very misplaced on this comment section.

  66. anonymoustruth

    يا أيها الذين آمنوا إن جاءكم فاسق بنبأ فتبينوا أن تصيبوا قوما بجهالة فتصبحوا على ما فعلتم نادمين

  67. لا للسرابيت

    هذه بداية ثمار مشروع ابتعاث البزران غير المحصنين ألاقيا ولا دينيا.
    الله يستر لى الباقي!

  68. Faroug

    I am ashamed of what Sultan has done. Abandoning his own child and hurting the mother of his child is a crime. I pray for your child and would remind sultan of the day of judgement when we all face god with our deeds. Will you be able to escape god punishment.
    what sultan has done is immoral and against the real teachings of Islam. Wish you and your cute baby all the luck.

  69. ياجماعه إنتبهوا من السب ، يعني هو غلطان او هي غلطانه
    لا تكسبون ذنوب فوق ذنوبكم بالسب

    إن لم يُحاسب بالدنيا فـ يحاسب بالآخره
    وهذي البنت المفروض تتقبل كل شيء بصدر رحب لأنها ما وثقت زواجهم ولا عندهم عقد ولا شروط يعني خلوه ينفعها التمادي وهو هالموقع راح يفضحه اشنع فضيحه بكل مكان

  70. يا ابو عوف شكلك حاقد على سلطان اكيد انك مبسبس وخنيث والفاظك تدل على ذلك
    وزعلان ان سلطان فظل ذا الامريكيه عليك لاكن لا تزعل كانك رجعت للسعوديه يمدحون الغاله
    يدورون اشكالك

  71. someone

    the Saudi embassy has to take an action about this. What’s the problem if he married her and brought them to Saudi Arabia . As we have a new system in Saudi Arabia when a man and a girl were found together in illegal way they will be forced to marry in this situation this law has to apply and make him pay for his fault..

  72. الله يصلح الحال وبس

  73. Dafer

    اما الي يقول كذب فغريب !!!!! يطالع في الشكل الولد يشبه ابوه قص لزق …. حرااااام والله حرااام شوهتوا سمعت السعوديين والمسلمين والعرب حسبنا الله عليكم وكفى …

  74. yasser

    ( من امن العقوبة أساء الأدب )
    إذا علم الإنسان بأنه سيعاقب ولن يسمح له مغادرة البلاد إلا بتسوية أي ارتباطات له سواء اجتماعية أو مالية أو …… ما كان له أن يهرب كالفأر ، من المؤكد أنه سيدافع عن نفسه إذا كان له عذر ـ عليه أن يعاود نفسه ــ ولو كان الأمريكي أو أي جنسية أخرى في السعودية وقام بفعل هذا الشئ هل ستتركه الجهات المسئولة من دون ردع أو منع من الخروج.
    الغير سعودي في المملكة لا يخرج حتى لو عليه مخالفة مرور ب50 ريال ، ما بالك بمن عليه مسؤولية زوجة وأبناء !!!!! سبحان الله في الكيل بمكيالين . شكرا

  75. Nisreen

    Well Done!! all respect. Name and Shame, this is the only way to get a result

    Nisreen

  76. Naif

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    انا فقط عندي سؤال واحد قبل ان استرسل في الكلام
    يا عالم في بني آدم عنده مثل هالولد ماشاء الله تبارك الله عليه ويتركه للمجهول
    في بني آدم عنده مثل هالطفل الرائع ويتركه
    طيب ليه ؟؟؟
    المهم اتمنى من الجميع والذين يعرفون هذا الشخص وأمثاله ان ينصحوه بأن يعود الى جادة الصواب وان يصحح غلطه فليس العيب ان نخطئ ولكن العيب ان نستمر في الخطأ وان ندير ظهورنا لما فعلناه نحن بأيدينا ، وان لم ينفع الكلام والنصح فهناك من الاجراءات القانونية التي تكفل لهذه الزوجة وابنها حق النفقة وان طالت المسائل وتعقدت فليس بعد الظلام الا النور.
    كما اتمنى من جميع من يعرفهم من قريب او بعيد اذا فشلت كل الطرق في تصحيح هذا الخطأ ان يتم فضحهم علنا عبر وسائل الاعلام كافة المقروئة منها والمسموعة وحتى المرئية.
    في الاخير هذي رسالة من انا شخصيا لوالد هذا الطفل سلطان عسيري انا كلي ثقة بأنك رجل والرجل لا يخون ولا يهرب من الواقع ولا يدير ظهره ابداً لافعاله.

  77. Mehdi

    Salam,

    C’est tres honteux de savoir que nos frères musilmun de l’Arabie Saudi font ceci a leurs enfants, si vous avez pas l’intention d’assumer votre responsabilité vers vos enfants, pourquoi vous s’engager dans des relations?!! c’est vraiment grave et vous donner une tres maivaise réputation sur les musilmuns.

    Merci a qui peut aider ses femmes la et qu’il leur donner les coordonnées de ces irrésponsables personnes.

    Mehdi, MOROCCO

  78. الله يارب تستر علينا وعلى عوراتنا

  79. Bnt almamlakah

    كل شباب السعوديه قحيب

  80. محمد البرقوقي

    الطلبة السعوديون معظمهم سفلة و حثالات..انهم اوباش ومتخلفون لايفهمون سوى الجنس والحشيشة والسكر
    نتمنى من الحكومة السعودية ان تحسن اختيار المبتعثين ..فانهم اساؤا الى السعوديون بالمقام الاول ومن ثم العرب فيما بعد والمسلمين

  81. sam6

    رهيبة اغنية الاماكن جاية مضبوط
    بس ما اظن انه يستاهل انك تشتافين له
    لانه خسيس ونذل والا كان ماخلاك

  82. twtw-1@hotmail.com

    ما أقول غير سود الله وجيهكم شباب فاشل ديوث سافل منحط حاكرين بناتكم بالبلد وجايبين لهم نفسيات بالدين اللي ماطبقتوه ع أنفسكم و برى أفعالكم تشابهه البهايم يابهايم , الدوله تخسر والأهل يتألمون ع فراقكم وبالأخير زنا وحرام وانحطاط أقول لعنك الله أنت وياه اللي ضيعتوا مستقبل أولادكم جب عارك أنت وياه من هناك الله يفضحك لا يبتلون بديانه غير دينك , وقسم بالله أنك عار على الجنوب وأنا اللي كنت أقول شباب ديرتي غير طلعتوا ماتسوون زق ,
    حسبي ربي ونعم الوكيل ,, صار الشعب منحط والسبه مديثة الرجال من بار لبار ومن مرقص لمرقص , خربتوا صورة الشعب السعودي وخربتوا سمعة الاسلام ,, حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل ,,

    بنت الجنوب الحزينه ,,

    • super man

      يا بقره هذا شخص واحد رحتي جمعتي بحكمه كل البلد

      شكلك صدق بقره

      وليه تحكرين نفسك اذا تبين تسوين زيه سوي ماحد منعك

      وتاكدي ماراح نجمع بنات الجنوب بفعل شخصك الكريم

      صدق بقره

  83. Meccan

    To All American Mothers Of Saudi Children,

    I am Saudi woman and it really saddened me what those deadbeat dads did to you. I am very so sorry for what you have been thought. I am very sorry for what your children have been through. I want you know that you have my support and there are many Saudis men and women who are very supportive of you. Thank you for being strong and standing up for your rights and your child rights. It takes alot of courage & bravery to confront those men and go public with your struggle.I hope the fathers finally will bring enough shame to their families that they are forced to pay child support. It is not that child fault that his father is irresponsible and it is not your fault that you trusted someone who betrayed your trust. We can not choose who we fall in love with so I can only imagine how you feel. I really don’t know how do you do it, how to be strong and move on and be able to raise your child without the dad but I respect you for it because I am a mom and I can not imagine how I would have been able to raise my child without my husband continues love and support, Thanks for posting this story. It works like magic and people now are talking and something good will come out of this at least families realize that their kids are not angels and it is time to teach them to respect women and be men. I will keep you all in my thoghts and prayers and send all my positvie energy your way.

    God Bless!

  84. Arnoob_7aboob

    انا بأمريكا الحين بولاية فلوريدا وودي اتزوج سعودية تدرس هنا
    ممكن ؟؟

  85. سعديان النجدي

    شكلها جلست تعلب بذيلها ورماها رمية كلب

  86. يا عمري على الطفل مره يجنن
    فكره جميلة وصلتم صوتكم واتمنى نشر لهم صور اكبر اذا ما استجابو واخذ معلومات عنهم من السفاره السعوديه حتى لو ببطائق احوالهم , خليهم يعرفون ان الزواج مو لعبه والاطفال مالهم ذنب يروحو ضحية شهوه

  87. نوسه

    الله لايلومها يهبل العسيري وهي شيفه اكيد محد معطيها وجه الا ه الخبل لازم تتشعبط فيه وتفضحه

  88. الله يهدية
    …يا أخواني ملاحض عليكم شيء
    أنكم تسبو بعضكم البعض بدلاً من المناقشه بالموضوع
    عيب والله أن كان سعودي أو أي جنسية عربية
    .؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

  89. وشفيهم‏ ‏هالمبزره‏ ‏رايحين‏ ‏يدرسون‏ ‏ولا‏ ‏يطيزون‏ ‏كل‏ ‏هاذي‏ ‏شفاقه‏ ‏ياملا‏ ‏التبن‏ ‏ياخي‏ ‏حتى‏ ‏اشكالهم‏ ‏تقرف‏ ‏اللهم‏ ‏لاتبلانا

  90. foofa

    حرآم عليييكـ آرجع لولدكـ اهم من الدراسه

  91. صالح

    والله أن القصة جدا حزينة
    وصور الطفل تقطع القلب حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل

    بالله اش بيسوي هذا خلفتوه ورميتوه في بلاد الكفر
    لا أنت سترت عليك وعلي نفسك ولا أنت سترت علي ولدك وعلي البنت

    كان تزوجتها حتي لو ماتبغاها أقله تشوف الولد وتعلمه دينه وتصرف عليه
    ولو ماتبغاها طلقها لكن الولد يسجل رسمي باسمك وبدينك

    هههه تحسبونها سعودية
    ترمونها زي الكلبة ومسكينة ما تقدر تفتح فمها
    وفي الاخر أبوها يرجع المهر لجل ينقذ بنته
    حقكم وما جاكم
    لا ويقول لها رجعي الهدايا

    أما البنت أقول لها انتي غلطتي وما فكرتي بالولد لما سويتي هذا الشي
    وحنا بعدسمعنا عن كثير أمريكيات وأوروبيات يتزوجون عرب وفي الآخر لما تزعل منه تشيل عيالها وتهرب وترفع عليه قضايا ولا تخليه يشوف عياله
    حياتكم غريبة

  92. Wana help.

    Mister burger king,,,,,,
    This is one of the most honest article I have read regarding this matter,,, I respect your honest, and straight forward coherent argument ,,,, can you allow me please to add little points, on what you have said,,,,,,I am Saudi,who got his education from the state,and may be came back to Saudi,in a more mature way,, so I think I have the right to compare between the tow society’s,,, of course what I will say next, it’s in a form of most but not all.
    (1)American ladyes ,, they can have a ONE and only ONE lover,”boy friend”, and she will love him and become very faithfull to him, during their relation ship.
    (2) a marriage means, a life time partner, and to sittl down ,,,” for better or worse,in sickness or in health, in rich or poor” and they mean it,,,a buchular party means,,, erasing the past for good.
    (3) you hardly ever find a lady, who has tow boyfriends at the same time. and when she break up, she needs time to re establish here emoshinal status and feelings.

    now on the other hand lets make a small comparison please,,,,,
    (1) a Saudi lady, start to flirt since middle school,, throw phone calls, and vice sex may be.
    (2) the flirt will develop during high school to showing here buddy in Skype , to not only here lover, or boyfriend, but to who charge here phone card,,$$
    (3)late high school and early college ,,, when she goes out to dinner or to {THLEYAH ST},,,, she fix up here looks, so she can gather as much numbers as possible, then at home, she decide to contact the best 3 cars that have approach here,,,,it made Saudi men, rent fancy cars during the weekend, BMW, BENTLY,,,,,etc,,, to get excepted!!!!!!!!!
    (4)as soon as you talk to any Saudi lady ,,,regarding when or how you meet,,, it’s alwyes here birthday next week,,,,and she alwyes wish for something for here birthday!!!!!!!,,,,, of course idepense on what kind of car she saw you in,,,she name here wish !!!!!!!
    (5) after she get’s marry, the relation with the men still going, even in a sexual way,,, they don’t mind going all the way,,,, here hosband is for the society, only, she cares about the last name, and the family status and money,,,but here playmate is alwyes on the side taking terms!!!!!!!

    and how funny we call American, hores and bitches😱,,,,
    not to menshion the lezabien relation that the Saudi women tray in some part of here life,,,

    In conclusion,,, Americans are honest, they don’t hide there reall life and values,,, but we saudi are hipocrits, we act like we are angels, and we don’t do wrong, but in truth, I wish that if we can as good as they are,,,,,,🌷

    • Public Scene Diffuser

      “Wanna help” nickname should reveal more positive and sincere approach with wholehearted gesture. we “Saudi females” have been following your comments until this recent one, however, we don’t see a real connection between your divine observations on chaste girls of KSA and this blog. Maybe it is better for you to focus on translating comments rather attacking the fair gender (suggesting your misogyny tendency) if you really want to help to get everyone’s voice heard- good or bad (integrity of this process). Even our selves we are not eager to attack you for your dicey, grotesque comments for many reasons. One of them, you are not being in question, please pin your self down on gender discrimination or hatred speech forums.

      I would rather ask Jennifer some pressing question that still confuse us in an undulating mode as restless spectators over this public parade? We are distant and detached from American cultures. But, we do know some interchangeable facts on the mainstream of thinking towards popular topics and mindset of the American couples, of course, based on scientific studies here or there. We demand some answers for lucid clarification since you put this heart-shuttering ordeal in public and being open for utterly discretionary judgment; while others sympathize with you and some condemn your move as a extortionist blackmailing. Without getting involved in morals and scruples pool or dived into even religious views and perspective of both Ibrahamic religions- Islam & Christianity- shall we dispense with reservations and formalities..

      -Before conceiving this angelic cherub-like baby, had you ever discussed having a baby together in short/long-term ? We know for a fact that American couples married or not -especially those tied the knot with a legal, civil and holy matrimony- consult and deliberate (for long perhaps) one another whether to have a baby or not. If yes, what was his answer?

      - If this relationship was practiced without safe intercourse and pregnancy occurred in a moment of passion; the biological father had refused to take responsibility of the baby and perhaps asked you for abortion (a chunk of liberal Americans- you consider yourself liberal before-mentioned – still battles for a god-given right for a freewill woman to choose abortion without a legal ban) and despite his wish, you turned a blind eye on his request as a compassionately loving mother who wanted this baby so badly with moral highness: Doesn’t that waive him morally and financially in the US and be deemed a freedom of your choice to have this baby without his consent? If you both don’t want to take responsibility for him financially, why don’t you both agree to put him up for adoption or in a foster home until this dispute ends? What is the best for the baby when the biological father disowns and disinherit his flesh and the mother turns this farcical interlude into public outcry that the child would be subject to traumatic experience in the future?

      - Others would simply take legal processions and prosecutions against such a fatherhood abandon, you have the right to demand financial support or alimony. This can be done even if you are not married in the first place to him in the American legal system: why have not you filed a lawsuit and sued him until this moment instead of spilling the beans here and jeopardize your son for bullying and trolling in the future.

      -Recent studies show that women are attracted to men whose position, power, money, noblesse oblige is high when it comes to marriage and relationships. We do not think the biological father attributes magic acquaintances to one of them. As a matter of fact, he is a undergraduate student with an insolvent situation- a square peg in a round hole. Given his financial strait, why would you have thrown your self into such a dark future and been strings attached with a man who has nothing but unknown future? Who would carry a child inside her womb from a man incapable of maintaining domestic life in the meanwhile? At least wait for him to haul on reins and be financially capable to raise his child. Did you know his financial status as a inept student before thrown your self into his arms? We are not playing Cupids or Eros to see romance behind your story. We just take a stern look into facts and results. This is a child’s life whose story is being publicized without his permission. What is the best for this innocent child? Will your government take responsibility for him by a force of law due to abuse case over Internet if everything fails?

      - If you are looking for the biological father’s financial support, why would you drag and hurl his family into his mess? He is an independent man and can be a presumptively legal entity to be prosecuted against. The biological father owns his actions and takes a burden of his wrongdoing. Why is the post flung at his family? Is that a customary thing in the US? Americans estranged mothers and sons contact and prosecute the biological father’s family/ lineage? We thought everything in the US takes a sturdy independent course. Unless his family shows you their willingness on their part to support your emotionally and financially; however you cannot force them into taking a bow of their son’s action or you- maybe this post is meant to be a warning shot across the bows.

      - In Saudi Arabia, we don’t keep medical records as the way you think. But we can make it a dime a dozen for you and tell you that all Saudis endure three chronic diseases: diabetes, hypertension, and cholesterol . If his family had a cancer case, God forbids, you can ask them in a quick notice.

      Solutions…

      We think you know by now that Saudi Arabia will not recognize your son as a Saudi citizen and cannot be eligibly admitted into Saudi Arabia for a simple reason: there is no marriage permission having given by Saudi Government/Authority. When your son comes age of 18, he might be admitted into KSA on a work permit by his father (please consult your lawyer on regulations and laws of Saudi Arabia). The Royal embassy of Saudi Arabia in the US will not be of great assistance either. There is only solution is that you have to solve this problem cordially. The more you attack his family, the more they are laden with hatred and agitation towards you (especially his siblings whose family name is being vehemently defamed by you). By contrast, contact them and invite them to see their alabaster-faced nephew- they would be smitten with him immediately.

      Take Steve Jobs, the late Multi-billionaire as a paragon: he was abandoned by his father and his mother put him up for adoption. Like father like son, he was engaged into a philandering relationship with his classmate and knocked her up with a baby that he had been denouncing his fatherhood to the daughter; until he was flung into court for DNA test. Later on, he acknowledged his daughter to clear his conscience. The story’s moral: do not add insult to injury; work through your differences on fair terms and your child’s best interest must take priority over any matter!

    • super man

      u need a shrink dude
      what kind of life u have been leading picking up bitches from anywhere.
      really man go see a shrink ur really scared by some bitch i am 100% sure of it

      i am sure u notices bitches ready to have sex with u in the street for a cigarette in the US so open ur eyes u are in the wrong path.

      لا يغرك كثرة من هلك و لكن انظر الى من نجى كيف نجى
      عيش مع ناس نظاف و خلوقين المتعه عندهم ماتعني مغازل و ترقيم و سهرات و لعب و براح تتغير نظرتك للمجتمع و للبنات عموما و الاهم لنفسك

      الله يهدي قلبك و يريح بالك و يعدل امورك

  93. Shaden

    I’m wondering of sth.
    How comes that u say he had his son in 2009 and his message to his son was in 1983 !!

    Sth weird..!! Either say sth true or don’t bring wronge evidence: )

    الغريب بالامر يقولون ربي رزقه بيوسف ب ٢٠٠٩ و رسالته لولده كاتب التاريخ كان ب ١٩٨٣ اي قبل ٢٩ عام لو احد لاحظ مدري ياهم ينصبون او فيه شي غلط بالموضوع

    ع العموم انا ماابرأ احد بس موب اي احد يتكلم كلمتين ويجمع لك صوتين بالفوتوشوب صدقناه .. تراه يعتبر قذف مادام مافيه شي رسمي مثل نتيجه تحليل او اوراق ميلاده ع الاقل حقت الطفل .. الله يسترنا فوق الارض وتحت الارض ويوم العرض

  94. darling I understand your feeling but What you did is wrong .
    you should not publish a private pictures to you and your husband.
    you should not say something bad about him.
    This is not the solution of your problem .
    such a problem could happen to you with an American guy
    and could be fixed by a way that is better than expose him .
    contact one of his family members and tell hem/her
    that you just want them to take care of their left son!

    • Atef

      Saudi Lady you are a very easily fooled person..if it was that easy to contact these Saudi men then this website wouldnt exist…you obviously havent read these stories..you might want to alert yourself to perhaps your own husband’s actions….

  95. Asiri

    you did a very wrong thing by publishing this article
    the news is in the tribe website now within a week the whole tribe will know , at least half a million .
    you will destroy his life. if you are seeking revenge , believe me you got it and if you want him to marry you , I don’t see how it is possible
    after this he’ll hate u for ever and perhaps he’ll hate the child too

    you should have tried another way , maybe contacting his family or any thing but this

  96. Danah Albabtain

    ماقول الا حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل يبون يفلونها ربي بلاهم وفضحهم واذا رجعو للسعوديه قالو نبي وحده تلبس عبايه على راس وماتطلع من البيت وتكون عذراء وهم مسوويين بلاوي دنيا طيب تبي جنس تزوج بالحلال ربي حللك اربع عشان ماتقع بالحرام الحين فضيحتك بكل مكان تسوا عليك عند الله وخلقه فشلت سمعت اهلك .

    • I like u & ur mother

      عيب يا دانه هالكلام جنس و ماجنس

      امك لو تدري انك تعلقين هالتعليق وش بتقول ؟

      عيب ترا

  97. B7r

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    انا حابه ارد علي كل شخص شتم في الموقع سلطان عسيري اذا كان سلطان غلط والمفروض يحاسب فلا انا ولانت نحاسبه الله سبحانه وتعالي هو اللي يحاسب انت ماعشت معه ولاعشت حياته ولاتدري ايش صار معه ومع هالبنت ولاتدري اذا هالحكي حقيقه او ملفق عشان تتكلموا وبعدين انتو قاعدين تتكلمو عنه وعن اخلاقه كل واحد عليه من نفسه واهله والله سبحانه وتعالي وصانا بالستر ( من ستر مسلم في الدنيا ستره الله بالاخره)
    نعرف انه الولد غلط بس غلطكم اكبر انا لاحظت انه الاغلبيه شمل في القذف علي انه السعوديين منحرفين انتبهو لكلامكم وزي ماتقولو انه ليش سلطان ماخاف من ربه انتو ليش ماتخافون من ربكم وتحاسبون علي كلامكم
    بالنسبه لصديقته اللي قاعدين تدافعون عنها هي مو مهتمه بالزواج اصلا ولافكرت لانه عندهم عادي ولو تبي تحافظ علي نفسها كان حافظت علي نفسها من البدايه وبالنسبه للطفل لو ولده مصيره ح ياخذه ويصرف عليه ويعترف فيه والله سبحانه وتعالي قادر علي كل شي .
    انتو سبيتو بالولد وبالسعوديين المبتعثين وقذفتو واخذتو ذنب الولد واهله حرام عليكم خافو ربكم واتقوا الله في انفسكم
    وتذكرو ان الله يمهل ولا يهمل.
    وعلي فكره لو اللي كتب الكلام صادق كان عرف يوصل لااهله بدل ماينشر هالكلام والصور و للفضيحه بس مانقدر نحكم من جهه وحده المفروض نسمع الطرفين وبعدين نحكم
    الله يستر علي الولد واهله ويحفظه ويحفظ جميع شباب المسلمين من كل شر ومن شر كيد الكائدين.

  98. meteb ali

    من وجهه بين علي لا شيمة ولا قيمة ومجرد من المروءة

  99. meteb ali

    اكثر زوار الموقع نسوان ههههه
    كل وحده جايه تشمشم خايفه يكون لزوجها تجربة سابقة مع الشقراوات ههههه

  100. J

    @wanna help
    that was very interesting to know. i keep hearing stories of the similar story of the saudi girls, but you are saying it from the guys side. i would have some of the girls want to tell me stories similar to this also but my inlaws will hush them, so i dont get to hear the dirt of all what goes on, only good. J

    would love to hear more

  101. J

    @Public Scene Diffuser
    you critizie wanna help for being honest,. yet you dont agree he is telling the truth, only condemn him on it, which shows proof at why saudis hide from the truth and cover and hide a bad reputation. i know not all girls like that, but what ”wanna help” is trying to convey is that american girls get a bad reputation from the saudi view, but they need to look in their own backyard and see the same flowers and trees growing. and a saudis marry american girls that never had a man before many times, and like them for there honesty. a saudi has a 50/50 chance to marry american virgin but for sure a higher chance of getting an honest girl forever. i dont think he says bad about saudi girls on purpose, but since many negative comments made here on this site on the girls, he just wanted to give a different view that not all saudi girls also are perfect.
    and your questions are lame. there is no help for her in the saudi law, so she is taking matters into her own hands. SHE WANTS COMMUNICATION WITH THE FATHER! your princess racism horns are showing.J

    • Public Scene Diffuser

      Whatever inscribed in this blog is still rendered “allegations” which can be grounds for potential lawsuits. “J” or “wannabe help” are just being sentimental, ignoring the truth that such a dispute is never resolved through social media but legal process. This blog may succeed to gain public opinions but it never brings control over papa head over heals but more aversion; Our questions were directly address to the owner of this blog who has refrained from comment since we are just spectators over this parade. Indeed, sentimental people always overlook the cerebral point behind these questions who may rather call them “lame”. For the sake of argument ,”J”, we challenge you to make our questions along with their peripheries baseless rather than shooting from the hip! Your post is merely precipitate and so irrelevant!

      We referred to the legal system in the US (common-law/Civil Law) where alimony can be earned, Please read carefully! & Hold your horses, the best is not yet to come! Islamic Jurisdiction (Shariah Law) in Saudi Arabia has unequivocal interpretations regarding such cases which are substantive in truth. It is sad to say publicizing the story may have ruined to conform with mitigating circumstances; where as a result the son’s rights may be null and void unless they are revoked with a lawful matrimony and consummate offspring. The urgency of demanding financial support galvanized the owner of this blog into action that may reflect lethal consequences. Keep in mind we are not fully aware of all elements pertaining to such an allegation. At the end of the day neither you nor this blog can force the biological father to take responsibility for his son. If you read our post carefully, you would see that we had to restrain from religious opinions because the truth is hard to swallow! Who’s the sole victim? Without a slight doubt, the child is! Solving this dispute cordially is the best solution for both parties. Stirring it up would be a cul-de-sac. A nimble advice to the owner: Don’t listen to the agitators surrounded by you who they lack knowledge of the local way of thinking and the Shariah system.

      We only take sides with the child.

      “J” For more insightful comments, read sinister saint’s post …

      A Princess with horns recaptures the fiery beauty, Maleficent, so flattered with your compliment!

      • Umm Alawi

        Just wondering — why do you keep referring to yourself as “we” LoL who’s “We”?? And reading your paragraphs give me a headache since you type like the school nerds/wannabe teacher’s fave who “we” used to kick the shit out of… oh wait they don’t have girls’ fights here in Saudi Arabia, do they?

        I know the site owner and believe me, this has been her only course of action to bring justice for her “angelic cherub” son. I’m a Canadian married to a Saudi & living in Saudi Arabia and the community here supports her fight for justice and Islam has nothing to do with it. Any comparison between Umm Yusef’s story and what the Shariah says is “null & void”.

        Keep fighting, Jenniffer — we got your back, hun <3

      • Atef

        Public Scene Embarrassment..you use many Big words but have such a Small portion of common sense If you feel that strongly about the stories on this site then I recommend you stay off and let the adults discuss

  102. Tota

    لو صادقه تثبت بالتحاليل وتطلعهامو تشهر بالولد نهذا ابتزاز وتشهير
    الله يفرج همنا وهم جميع المسلمين ويحفظنا واياكم من كل شر

  103. Majed

    I’ve known Sultan for many years and he was my dearest friend!
    The last time I saw him was in 2009 when he congratulated me for my marriage. I’ve never thought of him as this way, and I cannot describe how shocked I’m right now seeing his pictures in this situation. You don’t need to prove to me that it is his identical son because the minute I saw Joseph I saw his father’s eyes!!!
    You’re a strong woman and you don’t need me to tell you to hang in there for your child, but I promise you this; I will look for him, I’ll ask whom he used to hang out with, in house he used to live in, and everything I can.
    And Sultan; you used to call your self the predator in high-school, so I sure hope you live up to your nickname!
    and the rest must know

    ( مَا يَلْفِظُ مِن قَوْلٍ إِلا لَدَيْهِ رَقِيبٌ عَتِيدٌ )

    Regards to all!!!

  104. Wana help.

    @public scene diffuse

    Well I have to admit miss “public scene diffuses” ,,,, you have impressed me allot with your “stayl” of writing your comment but not the “core”,,,,what I want you to know please that I am not here to challenge or attack your kind self, I have nothing against you as a person,but kindly relax and let’s talk about the issue that this blog was established in the first place, and correct lots of falts thoughts that you bright up with your argument ,,,,,,,
    (1)”may be it’s better for you to focus on translating comments rather than attacking, and you have to be honest ,,,, etc”!!! ,,, mis “public scene diffuses” go back and read carefully my messages, and if you can read between the lines, which I really doubt or you don’t read Arabic,the only reason I was wishing to do the translation only because I don’t want to translate 100% truthfully,and I “hope” you know why,,, reading some of the nasty,low class,nose up, pregedis ,stupid,hatefull comments,from men and lady from my own country hurts me allot,,especially when using Islamic point of view,they don’t know those stupid people.that the KALEFAH OMR,ORDERD TO HAVE THE SON OF THE GOVERNOR OF EYGET HIT AND SLASHED BY A CRISTIAN EYGEPTION,CUSE THE RIGHT WAS ON HIS SIDE!!!,,, go back and read,please, what I have tried to do,with fixing some of the worst words ever used for some one,who is trying to solve a 3 years old kid problem.
    (2)”لكل فعل رد فعل مساوي لة بالقوة ومعاكس لة بلاتجاة”
    I am sure you heard of the physics law,,,and this , will answer your question,,,of why I talked about the saudi girl in this blog,read of what most of them has said,and apply the rols of physics above.
    (3)now , what I want you to do next will shake you!!!!!!,,read the first replay that miss jinnifer has wrote” those who have been rude ,I thank you as we’ll, I would not have created the blog if their was not a large problem right now” medical history ” is very important to elementary school entry and ,,,etc,,,and compare what she also wrote on September 14,,”created the blog so other women never feel alone”,,,and kindly again tray to read between the lines,and see the felling changed and the cut that some of the above comment has made in here words and flow of emoshiones. I can swear that she translated the comments between those dates.
    ***after that miss “public scen diffuser” I see you attacking miss Jennifer with out any back ground knowloge or effort to search,and you are making assumptions,and giving us facts and figures , I have no idea where and when you bright them from!!!!!!!!!!!! But I will admit that you sound very convincing ,, but only for those who is on the edge,,,I can swear again that “most likely”,you have not delt or lived in the states,or enter acted with others from difrient culture,
    (1)most of the question you asked Jennifer ,the answer is in here introductory !!!!!!
    (2) you have talked about abortion in a very funny way,,,do you have the right to even suggest such a thing,so now you wanna control here own buddy !!!!!!!!, and you go on with your own conclusion “you consider ,your self Lebral , please know what liberal means, so if I am Liberal,I must have an aborthion,and when did she says,she is liberal in the first place,,{you jump to conclusion and making you are story},,, being Lebral,does not mean automatically having in aborthion. Just a small clarification.
    (3)in ” your own” recent study,that says positions,power,money,nobless family,,,,but very funny,your study, never menshioend that most important part ,why don’t we assume,that they fall in love, and it happend,,,,,!!!!!!!!! Why the assumption is alwyes ,she is using or blackmailing him!!!!!!! I really hope and wish you where kidding when you said “thrown your self at him””. Get reall please!!!!!
    (4)you tried to convince us that she had the baby ” with out his consent”:-( so now she raped him for example !!!! I think I see that it’s with out his consent, by him holding his lovely child in the hispital.
    (5)” put him for adoption,or foster home ,,,,again you tray to control the choices and life of others, kindly when you have your own baby, put him for adoption,or in foster homes,,,,, I have read the introductory of the blog so many times,and never found once that,she showed that she hated Yosef or ,she does not want to see him, or tired of rasing him ,,as a matter of fact I read and see tuns of love,towards the kid from his mother,,,here we catch the difrient mentality miss!!!!!!
    (6)in you facts and results section,,,I think here where the most help you need, so focus on this section the most please,” what is the best for this innocent child,will your government take responsibility for him by a force of law due to “ABUSE” case over Internet”. ,,, I think miss Jennifer lives in the states, not Cuba ,,even if she lives in Saudi Arabia,,where is the abuse that you are talking about!!!!!!!!!
    (7)in your solution, section, you are giving totally falts info,,,as a matter of fact , you are giving 180% degree apposite from reality, and I assume,that you don’t know, when you said that things can be solved only in court,and media will not do anything,will the last tow years I see country’s and leaders changed from a one single website,,and to prove my point, do you know” أواصر” “AWASER AGENCY” in Saudi Arabia, after this blog came out, أواصر has aside in alegtesadeyah newspaper, that they will contact the interior monastery for those fathers, who left there children behind.

    In conclusion miss,,,, my advice, relax and you have to know, people have there own right to do what they want,as long as they are not harming other. and no need to have our own negative assumptions ans own solutions,for other people own life.
    t.c and best regards,

    • Public Scene Diffuser

      “Wannabe” you salute the American attributes of ultimate honesty and devotion, have your own divine observations on the fair gender of other ethnicity, and now you refute the already-established mainstreams of thinking toward popular topics in the US such as discussion for having a baby beforehand and so on. You cannot do that because you have to learn to accept it, “warts and all”. It is no doubt you are “the invisible hand” advisor backing up with out-of-the-blue testimonies and perhaps the official spokesperson of owner and others.

      “Awasser” was suggested earlier on- not a breakthrough on your side. The idea is to explore other amicable options and gauge realities. But there are others who break bridges rather than build or even narrow them.

      Based on your insistently hostile comments, we transparently draw on that you have anti-Saudi tendency. It is always a waste of time to mindfully reason with Anti.

  105. Wana help.

    @ j
    Thanks you so much for pointing out ” I don’t think he says bad about saudi garis on purpose………….” You are absolutely right, it’s not my stayle of behavior or responding,but enough is enough, just getting sick and tired of acting that we are the angelic and perfect society,we are good actors, do as you wish,but don’t get cot,and alwyes deny,,, plastic way of living,is not fun at all,,we are like any normal society , we have the goods and the bada,the educated and the uneducated,,,but I guarantee you,that we have a much much worse than this case, in a very noticeable way, at least there is western society we know the hores from the stright,but here I challenge any one to figure out the puzzle ,,,,,did I answer you sir ,,lol,,,,,

  106. ALI BN ABDULLH

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم. وبعد سأتحدث من منطلق شرعي بحت الآتي: الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه أما بعد:

    فنشكر لك ثقتك وتواصلك مع مركز الفتوى، وفيما يخص السؤال رقم: 43661 فقد أحلناك على جوابين سابقين لاشتمالهما على مضمون ما سألت عنه.
    وقد تضمن الجوابان ذكر اختلاف العلماء في نكاح الحامل من الزنى، وذكرنا ما نرجحه من أن حمل الزنى لا ينسب إلى هذا الزاني ولو تزوج من الزانية.
    وهذا هو مذهب الجمهور، وقد بينا في فتوى أخرى تفصيل هذا الخلاف، انظر الفتوى رقم:6045 وحاصله أن الجمهور على أن ولد الزنا لا ينسب إلى الزاني بحال، وخالف في ذلك عروة وإسحاق بن راهويه وسليمان بن يسار وأبو حنيفة فأجازوا إلحاق الولد بالزاني في حال زواجه بالزانية. قال أبو حنيفة رحمه الله: لا أرى بأساً إذا زنى الرجل بالمرأة فحملت منه أن يتزوجها ويستر عليها، والولد ولد له.
    وإنما رجحنا مذهب الجمهور واكتفينا بذكره في بعض الفتاوى، لما رواه أحمد وأبو داود وابن ماجه والدارمي أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قضى أنه لا يلحق الولد “إذا كان أبوه الذي يُدْعى له أنكره، وإن كان من أمة لم يملكها أو من حرة عاهر بها فإنه لا يلحق به ولا يرث؛ وإن كان الذي يدعى له هو ادعاه، فهو ولد زنية من حرة كان أو أمة.” والحديث حسنه الألباني، وهو صريح في أن ولد الحرة المزني بها لا ينسب إلى الزاني ولا يرثه وإن ادعاه الزاني.
    ولا شك أن إثبات أبوة الزاني لهذا الحمل يترتب عليه أحكام عظيمة كإرثه منه، وكون الولد محرماً لأم الزاني وأخته وبناته من غير المزني بها.
    وأما حديث أبي داود: لا توطأ حامل حتى تضع. فقد صححه الألباني في صحيح أبي داود.
    ونحن لا نلتزم ذكر من نص على صحة الحديث اكتفاء بوقوفنا على صحته.
    والحاصل أن الولد من الزنى لا ينسب إلى الزاني في جميع الأحوال، سواء ولد قبل زواج الزاني بأمه، أو كان حملاً حين حصل هذا الزواج.
    والله أعلم. اسأل الله العلي القدير ان يحفظ أبنائنا المبتعثين ويعودو لأرض الوطن سالمين مكللين بالنجاح والرفعة لدينهم وبلدهم

  107. كتكوت

    برنامج الاسبوع في ساعة على قناة روتانا خليجية ناقش هذه القضية ووضع النقاط على الحروف .. فاتقوا الله يامن تخوضوا في اعراض الناس ….

    يا أيها الذين آمنوا إذا جاءكم فاسق بنبأ فتبينوا أن تصيبوا قوماً بجهالة فتصبحوا على ما فعلتم نادمين

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=EG&hl=ar&client=mv-google&v=jraOikJPNt8

  108. Ana

    ي جمااعه اشوفهم حذفوا موضوع سليمان الراجحي
    يعني ان شاءالله انحلت المشكله!

  109. Mesh

    First of all you’re a great mother and you have to know that , because you didn’t give up and please keep looking for his father don’t lose your hope !

    write an email for the saudi embassy in washington dc and ask for yours and your son rights !!

    good luck

  110. abu abdullah

    I really was sad and upset about your sad story, and I am sure you are not alone , there are many such cases , so first of all this is part of your fault , since you trust like this type of stray guys ,
    however this not the right time to blame you.
    Just as the previous comments said , take care of your handsome child, and I hope you enjoy him Instead of his coward father, and I am sure he will enjoy you while he grows up .
    My best. Abu Abdullah

  111. Mandre

    i just saw that you updated your story and wallah sound so familiar… In my case i had to removed my story to keep my son welfare, and later on i found out what was the story Sulaiman created for his family “I have never met her, the Saudi Embassy in US asked me to do a DNA test if i have nothing to hide, so i agreed, when they called her she said that she haven’t met me, that am not the father of her son, and she refused to do a DNA test. So after all we were going to Sue her to be lying about me, so she left US.” Wallah when i heard that story i felt betrayed and so sad to know how easy these “men” are refusing their blood, and i was wondering why if he haven’t met me his name is under the birth certificate? why we have ton of picture together in all the places we lived? why he was contacting me begging to take off the post because that will affect him? and why i was so stupid to allow him to walk on me all over again many many times…. But what I know and believe is that the Day of Judgment will come for him and he won’t lie to Allah who is the all knower, and i know all these “men” will have to give accounts and ask all the unanswered question they left during our son’s/daughter’s life….

    You are so brave, and i admired you to have the courage to face this guy, to create this blog to be helping other girls in our situation, and to be raising your kids the best way you can, inshallah you will be rewarded and your kids will be proud to have you as their mom… Am praying every single day for these guys, and hoping one day Sami meet his dad.

    May Allah bless you, your kids, and wonderful husband to be a real man.

    • Thank you Mandre :)
      I do find it a little strange that all these fathers behave the same manor. It is like they have a play-book on how to lie and cheat!!
      Our children will have to learn everything from Mom and their fathers will be used as an example on how not to be when they have children of their own.

      I am glad that throughout this process I have had you to talk to and I value our friendship. Sami, Rayan and Joseph will grow up knowing they will always have someone they can talk to when they start to feel sad about their fathers who are cowards.

      • Mandre

        Inshallah they will… thanks for everything! may Allah reward you

  112. Umm Alawi

    I read about the HIV and if that’s true, it’s just a case of “what goes around, comes around”!! Sultan is a douchebag and I’m not afraid to say it — what kind of psycho leaves behind a child, and then slanders the mother who is providing nourishment in a healthy & loving environment?? What a weirdo!!

  113. Sahar

    حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل فيكم
    راح تسألون عنهم يوم القيامة

    واللي يقول كذب ونصب وإحتيال
    الطب تطور يا جاهل
    و بفحص DNA
    يعرفوا إذا كان أبوه جد وإلا كذب

  114. Dear great moms you are not alone, I feel really sorry for what i saw here. they think what they do to saudi women can also be applied abroad thier great borders, dont stop, go a head and sue them, chase them and never leave them in peace. my heart, soul and prayers are with you all. with all love and respect to your pure hearts.

  115. Sarah

    I feel totally disgusted by what these guys have done. The government spends huge amounts of money for therm to get educated and go back to build the country but instead they go and bring shame to the country, their families and themselves.

    An important thing to note is that a relationship with a Saudi guy is never a serious relationship even if it was long-term. In the Saudi culture, relationships before marriage are just ways to experiment and waste time.
    Another thing is that marriage to a non-Saudi (even to a person from the gulf states) requires governmental approval which is not always easy to get and then there is the social issue of getting married to some one outside the “circle”. Some families are so strict that they would not allow their son to marry some one from another tribe.
    And what complicates your cases is the issue of children born out of wedlock. That’s a big no in Saudi and even if a guy was willing to get serious with a girl and marry her, it will be very difficult to explain the baby to society.
    I know that you guys did not know all this when you got involved and I feel sorry for you because you got to learn this the hardest way but maybe this will be a warning to other girls, do not get involved with a Saudi student unless his family knows and approves of her and he is willing to take the steps to get a marriage permission, unless her goal is just to have fun too, then she should not expect any commitment from him no matter how long the relationship lasts, once he graduates and leaves, she will be history to him.
    I do not expect that you get much sympathy from the families of these guys because in Saudi mentality, boys will be boys, and girls should know better than to let a human wolf (as conservative Saudis like to call them) take advantage of her. To them a girl who will allow that to happen is immoral and had that coming so she shouldn’t complain which I guess might be acceptable in Saudi society where pre-marital sex is prohibited and therefor it is a girl’s responsibility to protect herself but not applicable to your society where almost all relationships are physical. Anyways I hope at least all this publicity will get some action from the government to help you with your innocent babies and maybe make some change in Saudi mentality to let guys know that they need to be held accountable for their actions and if they are not willing to be responsible for a child out of wedlock then maybe they shouldn’t take the risk of having premarital sex but do not expect many of them would come and say hey I had a child out of wedlock because that will get them shunned from society even if they come from a liberal family.

  116. I can not understand you. Your chilled has a name and father who is your hasbend. What do you want of Sultan?

    • What is hard for you to understand? I want my sons father to not be a lying coward. Sultan pretends his son does not exist. He lies to his family and friends. My son deserves to be acknowledged by his father. No mother wants their child to feel pain because of their fathers. One day when Joey asks why did my daddy leave me did he hate me what am I to say?

      As to your question of my sweet and loving husband his name is Matt and he loves my son and chooses to do everything Sultan refuses to do. Although Joseph has a father figure in his life he will still want to know about his father some day. Joey will be glad that my husband has chosen him as his son and he will know the truth about his father who ran away with his tail between his legs. He will be angry that his father missed out on all the important milestones in his life. Right now I can tell him it is just the way Saudi men are and these men are big fat liars whos only lesson they can teach their children is how not to be a man.
      Sultan needs to wake up and realize he has a child who deserves to be acknowledged and loved by his father.

  117. mhm202

    if you believe that Sultan has to be a bart of his son life why u do not register your son under his real father name. i do understand that you want to destroy Sultan live and you just need him for money

    • I dont register him under his fathers name because of many reasons first is we are american we dont do things like that and second Sultan hates his child why would I give him his fathers name that just adds insult to injury! I have not destroyed Sultans life he did that when he left his child. I dont want Sultans money he has less money than I do and I am poor…. he has NO money never has & never will. But I see what you are trying to do there with your comment saying I want his money and all I can do is laugh because you have nothing else you can say. You are so right a father should never do anything for his son because that is the way the world works in your head. I bet when you have children you will be an awesome parent.

  118. mhm202

    I see, now i do understand your condition you still love Sultan

  119. mhm202

    kkkkkkk you make me laugh, listen you will never ever see Sultan again. from the beginning you know that he is not yours so do not lie to yourself and leave him to start new life that he wants. you are so selfish, how a man can take care of child who has a name of other man.

    • I am glad I could make you laugh here is something else that will make you just laugh are you ready for it? Real men take care of their children regardless of where they are in the world I understand that is a strange concept for you.
      You seem like a sad pitiful person who was raised with no morals and were taught that the MANS word is gospel and I am sorry that you have never known that the rest of the world has evolved. Let me give you a bit of advice that might help you in dealing with American women in the future.
      1. We dont give our children the fathers name when the abscond from all responsibilities
      2. We dont need a mans permission for anything
      3. When it comes to our children we women tend to be more matriarchal.
      4 Women who go after looser dead beat dads is not selfish on the mothers part but selfish and cowardly on the mans part.
      Crazy concepts right!!

      In your world it is just dandy for a man to have a child and run away like he has no responsibilities. It is crippling for him to even call and check on their children. The simple thought of doing right by a child is strenuous at best. It is no wonder I gave my son an American name having him be tied to a man who as you say we will never see is just stupid. I could have named Joseph ……Yousif Sultan Abdullah Asiri and I bet a million dollars he would still run like a coward dog so dont give me that line of bull crap how can he take care of a child without his name. People like you and him will come up with any excuse not to do the right thing it is sad really and it shows how week your character is.

  120. When You believed that you are different and you can not believed in Arabian culture why did you get pregnant from guy that completely different from you. However , you and him still children need for more live exuberance to be adult. I like your lovely boy and I wish him good future. Last advise from me to you, tell your child that he is Arabian and Muslim

  121. Um bin al Gamar

    Hey fellow why u putting ur noise into other peoples affairs Mr Mhm202. U will never know the pain and worries of these mum’s. I am one like them although I chose not to publish my story and can I say my heart and mind are totally in pain most of the time….

  122. Faisal

    Damm him, I know this guy he was my classmate back in Findlay. What a shame..

  123. NH

    استغفر الله العظيم..
    الظلم ظلمات يوم القيامه الله يلطف في حالها ياناس احمدو الله هي عايشة في مجتمع عادي عندهم ذا الشي شلون قاعدين تحاسبونها كانها مسلمه؟؟
    البلا في هو قليل الذات الله لا يوفقه وجعل حوبه هالولد الضغير ماتتعداه ان شاء الله يخرب بيته شلون ينام وهو مرتاح؟؟؟

  124. The picture of the two in the kitchen bothered me. He is pulling on her shirt in aggressive style and she still wears a smile. Sad story.

  125. Sarah

    العسارية ناس متخلفة ومانعة بناتها من الدراسة بالخارج بحجة انهم بنات ومصيرهم يتزوجون
    والمشكلة ساكتين عن الشباب كنهم ملائكة
    حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل

  126. nany

    he told u to NOT have the baby .. u should be smart enough to knw what kind of men he is !!

  127. Ali

    it is never too late to correct our mistakes, some people are not brave enough though

  128. Abdul

    The 8th picture, Looks like he wanted to do her like what an Islamist want to do to democracy

  129. Rana

    Don’t trust saudi men when they ask u to date them ..Im a saudi girl and we saudi women know them very well..If a saudi man is serious about a girl he likes ,he would immediately send his mother to prepose to the girl.. Those guys make relationships in your country and come home acting innocent..Here’s the fact ALL SAUDI MEN MARRY VIRGIN GIRLS,even if he is a really bad guy and drinks and sleeps arround with western girls ,He Thinks that his good enough to marry a saudi girl ..Some Saudi men are not good enough for us ..because a Saudi girl should never have any relationships with men whatsoever or else she would be punshed real bad by her family..but when a saudi man sleeps arround with western girls people say let him live his life and have fun ..Its not fun when you have a child with ur GF and run from resposibilities ,just do the right thing and marry her ..

  130. ??????????????????????? let me tell you !!!1 wallah if i see this both sultan aseeree wallah im smashing his face in cuz this is fucked up and he is not human!!! them ryidh najdii ppl have no mercy!! its okay allah has a better plan for the lil boy and thats fasho

  131. 3ta

    My recommendation is that lil handsome guy (Joseph) MUST learn Arabic language, because I believe that one-day he will visit Saudi Arabia and set with his Saudi family and explain why his father tried to repudiated his son at that time. Might be Joseph give his father lessons in manners and responsibilities. I will try follow this page day by day, year by year to see how Joseph became strong and take care of his mother,

  132. Zahia

    I think you’re fortune of marriage did not imagine what happened to you now, so my sister warned of the fact that the Arabs understand phishers more of you

  133. Zahia

    I think you are greedy for the marriage and you did not imagine what happened to you now, so my sister warned of the fact that the Arabs understand phishers more of you

  134. anne

    same story i have.. i hope the saudi embassy will help us to contact there father..

    • I´m so sorry to hear that you are going through the same situation as all of us… Sadly, the Saudi Embassy has done nothing to help… I went there last December (2013) to seek for help and all I got was bad treatment and careless people. Please Anne, if you need to talk or you may want to have a friend I am here to help, my mail is mandrechang.sami@gmail.com

      I have gone for many things but I have never lose faith that one day Sami will get want he deserves and Allah will make justice… Keep it up and pray even if sometimes you think that nothing will be possible to solve this situation.

      I will pray for you!

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