Posts Tagged With: Saudi students
Recently an article was posted that the Saudi embassy is going to force DNA testing to prove paternity on the men who have children while studying abroad. When the embassy was asked about the number of cases their answer was in the single digits. They claim to be in the process of doing the testing now.
First their numbers are way off the mark since I personally have been contacted so many women who have had the same problems with the embassy as everyone else on the blog. This problem has been going on for over 30 years unchecked how can they claim such a small number?
No one on the blog has gotten a response from the Saudi embassy, they still refuse to return phone calls or emails. How are they going to force DNA testing when they refuse to even acknowledge us. I feel as if this is a ploy from the embassy to make themselves look like they are taking charge of the “small” situation. When in fact no one can seem to get through to them.
This problem is not going to go away. We are not going to go away. You say you are going to do DNA testing by all means prove it!! We want the DNA testing done.
Bismillah Rahman al rahim
In response to “a week in an hour” shown in rotana khalejeah channel
After we have seen and analyzed the video we want to tell you our point of view on the subject of the video and how these men approached this sensitive topic of “SAUDI CHILDREN LEFT BEHIND”, we took the video offensive cause these men are generalizing the behavior of other women in America, let me state not all American women are the same. We women do not generalize the Saudi men for what these guys did to us US women are there sons. We know that there are many good men in KSA and we are not trying to belittle all of Saudi Arabia men because we know there are good and bad in every country. We know the situation of SAUDI CHILDREN LEFT BEHIND happens all over the world but the father of children are from kingdom of Saudi Arabia , that is why we opened this blog to prevent other situations with Saudi men and foreign women, and to let the fathers know that their children do exist . We are not looking or wanting money we just want to let our children know that we will do anything for them to keep them content and for their fathers to recognize them. We do not put the pictures of our children to try to get sympathy but just to show the similarities of our children and their Saudi father. We are not trying to get pity from other people around the world but just to show people this is not a lie. We think that the video was posted on a week in an hour” shown in rotana khalejeah channel was more focused on the women and offending us than the children which is not what we are trying to get. “And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.” (Surah Al Tur 52:21) .The blog is about our children and their fathers not us mothers. We women of “Saudi children left behind” are willing to do DNA anytime if it was possible for the fathers to come back and do DNA with their sons/daughters so we can prove to the readers and followers and the country of KSA that our stories are real and this is not to seek any revenge against the fathers of our children. Our only goal of this blog is to inform the families of their grandchildren in America, prevent these situations again and for women to know what they have done before getting involved in relations with the men of our children. Inshallah We are not trying offend these men of” “a week in an hour” shown in rotana khalejeah channel “
But to show our opinions of there statements on the video.
Fathers Responsibility of his Children in ISLAM
The father in essence is the role model of the child and has been given the pedestal of leadership in the home: ‘The man (father/husband) is the keeper and leader of his family’. (Mishkãt).
It’s very clear that by divinely mandated Islamic Law, man bears full responsibility for the care and upbringing his children. Those who willfully violate the Law will be held accountable, especially on the Day of Judgment.
Children are a trust given to the parents. Parents will be held accountable for this trust on the Day of Judgment. Parents are essentially responsible for the moral, ethical and the basic and essential religious teachings of their children.
If parents fulfill this responsibility, they will be free of the consequences on the Day of Judgment. The children will become better citizens and a pleasure to the eyes of their parents, first in this life, and in the Hereafter.
God, Exalted, most High says in the Qur’an:
“And the mothers should suckle their children for two whole years for him who desires s to make complete the time of suckling; and their maintenance and their clothing must be borne by their father according to usage. No soul should have imposed upon it a duty, but to the extent of its capacity; neither shall a mother be made to suffer on account of her child, nor a father on account of his child; and a similar duty (devolves) on the (father’s) heir, but if both desire weaning by mutual consent and counsel, there is no blame on them; and if you wish to engage a wet-nurse for your children, there is no blame on you, so long as you pay what you promised for according to usage; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, and know that Allah sees what you do. Chapter 2, verse 233. **
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
والصلاة والسلام على اشرف الأنبياء وخير المرسلين, نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين
لقد شاهدنا كغيرنا, تسجيل إحدى حلقات برنامج ” أسبوع في ساعة ” والذي عرض على قناة روتانا الخليجية, والذي تناول فيه ضيوف الحلقة موضوع موقع ” الأطفال السعوديين الذين هجرهم آبائهم “, وكيف قام الضيوف بشرح وجهة نظرهم بخصوص هذا الموضوع الحساس, لذا فإننا نرغب في توضيح وجهة نظرنا الخاصة.
لقد ساءنا وبشكل كبير ما وجدناه من اهانات متعمدة من قبل ضيوف الحلقة والذين قاموا بالتشكيك في أخلاق وشرف وتربية كل النساء اللائي نشرن معاناتهن في الموقع, وما زاد من الاهانة ما قام به الضيوف بتعميم هذا التشكيك ليصفوا به كل النساء في الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية.
متناسين أو متجاهلين انه لا يمكن تعميم فكرة ما على مجتمع كامل, فعلى الرغم مما نعانيه وأطفالنا بسبب التصرفات المشينة لبعض الرجال من المملكة العربية السعودية إلا أننا لم نذكر بتاتا أو نشير بشكل مباشر أو غير مباشر إلى تعميم تلك الصفات المشينة على كل المجتمع السعودي, لإيماننا بان كل مجتمع يحوي الجيد والسيئ.
وإننا إذ نعلم بخصوص انتشار هذه القضية والتي تم تناولها في البرنامج, لنؤكد وبشكل قاطع أن سبب وجود موقع ” الأطفال السعوديين الذين هجرهم آبائهم “, هو لمنع تكرر مثل تلك القصص المأساوية, ولكي نتأكد من أن الآباء السعوديين الذين هجروا نسائهم يعلمون بوجود أبناء لهم, لاسيما بعد تعمد معظم أولئك الآباء قطع جميع وسائل الاتصال مع نسائهم.
كما نؤكد على عدم وجود أي أطماع أو مطالبات مادية لدينا, إذ أننا كأمهات مستعدون للتضحية لأجل أبنائنا وكفايتهم من أي حاجة.
وما قمنا به من نشر صور لأطفالنا, لم يكن أبدا بهدف الحصول على العطف, أو الشفقة, ولكن لإظهار الشبه الواضح بين كل طفل وأبيه, وليس محاولة لكسب رأفة المتابعين والقراء, ولكن لإثبات أن ما ذكرناه من قصص هي حقيقة واقعه وليست محض خيال أو افتراء.
إن ما احتواه برنامج ” الأسبوع في ساعة ” من هجوم متعمد ضد الأمهات في موقع ” الأطفال السعوديين الذين هجرهم آبائهم “, لنعتبره اهانة لنا ولأطفالنا, ولا نرتضيه البتة.
قال تعالى في كتابه الحكيم (وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَاتَّبَعَتْهُمْ ذُرِّيَّتُهُم بِإِيمَانٍ أَلْحَقْنَا بِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَمَا أَلَتْنَاهُم مِّنْ عَمَلِهِم مِّن شَيْءٍ كُلُّ امْرِئٍ بِمَا كَسَبَ رَهِينٌ). سورة الطور
على الرغم من أن الموقع يتحدث عن الأوضاع المأساوية لأطفال سعوديين, وعما اقترفه آبائهم بحقهم, فإننا نستغرب إقحام الأمهات وجعلهم النقطة الرئيسية للحوار في البرنامج من قبل الضيوف.
مشددين على أننا لا نمانع, القيام باختبار الحمض النووي في أي وقت, لإثبات نسب الأطفال لآبائهم, إذ يمكن لكل أب يريد التأكد من أن يحضر بنفسه للولايات المتحدة الأمريكية للخضوع لهذا الفحص مع أبنائهم / بناتهم, وهذا ينبع من ثقتنا فيما نذكره في الموقع, ولإثبات صحة وواقعية ما نزعم به ضد أولئك الآباء, خاصة أمام قرائنا ومتابعينا, وللملكة العربية السعودية.
لقد كان وما زال الهدف الحقيقي لظهور موقع ” الأبناء السعوديين الذين هجرهم آبائهم “, لكي تعلم الأسر السعودية بوجود أحفاد لهم في الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية, وتسليط الضوء على ما يعانيه أحفادهم من أوضاع بسبب تخلي آبائهم عنهم, وحرصنا على توضيح تلك القضية بشكل مفصل بما يساعد كل الفتيات والنساء على عدم تكرار ما حصل لنا من مأساة.
كما نشير إلى ما وجدناه من تجاهل واضح من جميع الأجهزة والمؤسسات الحكومية والمدنية التابعة للمملكة العربية السعودية, وعلى الرغم من تكرر مراسلاتنا ومناشداتنا لهم, إلا أن الردود (وان وجدت) كانت تخلوا من الجدية.
إننا وبهذا الرد نؤكد أننا لا نهدف إلى اهانة الأشخاص الذين ظهروا في حلقة برنامج ” الأسبوع في ساعة”, بل استخدام حقنا في الرد على ما جاء في الحلقة من حوار نرفضه.
قال الله تعالى في محكم تنزيله (وَالْوَالِدَاتُ يُرْضِعْنَ أَوْلادَهُنَّ حَوْلَيْنِ كَامِلَيْنِ لِمَنْ أَرَادَ أَن يُتِمَّ الرَّضَاعَةَ وَعَلَى الْمَوْلُودِ لَهُ رِزْقُهُنَّ وَكِسْوَتُهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ لاَ تُكَلَّفُ نَفْسٌ إِلاَّ وُسْعَهَا لاَ تُضَارَّ وَالِدَةٌ بِوَلَدِهَا وَلاَ مَوْلُودٌ لَّهُ بِوَلَدِهِ وَعَلَى الْوَارِثِ مِثْلُ ذَلِكَ فَإِنْ أَرَادَا فِصَالاً عَن تَرَاضٍ مِّنْهُمَا وَتَشَاوُرٍ فَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْهِمَا وَإِنْ أَرَدتُّمْ أَن تَسْتَرْضِعُواْ أَوْلادَكُمْ فَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذَا سَلَّمْتُم مَّا آتَيْتُم بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَاتَّقُواْ اللَّهَ وَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ) البقرة.
والله من وراء القصد
الي عائلة سلطان عبدالله عسيري ،، / To the Family of Sultan Abdullah Asiri
I wish you a wonderful and enjoyable life, my life is very difficult, and still very difficult, all the decisions that I have made were so difficult, non was simple. But, I love you and I love your mother, and I wish you all a wonderful life.” Written by Sultan Abdullah Asiri
To the Family of Sultan Abdullah Asiri who reside in Riyadh Saudi Arabia.
I have learned so much in the past year, the ups and downs have been enough to try anyone’s patience but through all the hardships I have found the most amazing people. They have been my saving grace during this difficult time. The family we have created and the bonds we share will last a lifetime.
Our numbers seem to keep growing and yet the Saudi Govt. is yet to take any action in disciplining their own people when they study abroad. The young and old men in our website still continue to live their life as if they were proper Muslim men marring virgin wives. The word whore is often used to describe the women effected. Family’s of these men ( Sultan Asiri’s family as well) when they are informed about their sons behaviour have a reaction that baffles us in the west. Pretending the problem does not exist seems to be the way some Saudis deal with a problem that is staring them in the face.
The majority of the women and adult children are Muslim and are raising their children alone. My dilemma there is with my own son is the fact that my sons father uses Islam as his excuse for his neglect and total abandonment of his son. How as a mother can I raise my son Muslim when his own father says that is why he hates his son? Why would I raise my son to ever believe that actions like that are acceptable because he is a male muslim? How can he pray to Allah and beg him to know his father while his father is praying that he never has to hear the name Joseph Martin or Jenniffer ever again. My son deserves better than that.
A Note To Sultan Abdullah Asiri.
I try to think back to a time when you and I were inseparable, up all night just talking about anything and everything that would pop in our heads. Hanging out with Fahad, Falah, and Tareq laughing so hard we thought we would die. You were in love with me and I you.
When I became pregnant you insisted I kill our child if I wanted to keep you you then showed me how important I truly was by sleeping with every girl you met and telling them you never knew me and you have no children. In the beginning people believed your lies and tall tales……then they get a look at your son and they all immediately know that you were a stone cold liar. Your defence was so unoriginal and comical….”o ya I know her she is crazy she says every saudi is the dad” REALLY??? First off look in a mirror and you will see what Saudi is the daddy. Second you KNOW you were the only man I was intimate with!! I was madly in love with you. I remember a time you lost your scholarship and were broke and homeless, I was struggling to put food on the table for my children and I took you into my home paid your bills washed your clothes and fed you. How is the favour repaid? You get your scholarship back after 8 months of living off me and my family and you go out and spend 3,000 dollars on a big screen tv for your new party pad while I have to get on welfare just to feed and clothe our son. I begged you for 10 dollars for diaper s and you flew into a rage saying you whore you only got pregnant so you can have my money, I tell you what let me send you a bill of money spent on Joseph thus far and see if the thousands of dollars I spent and the 0$ you gave seem logical at all.
When I created the website I hadn’t heard from you in months, when you found out about the website you broke into my house and hacked my computer with a key-logger and stole Joseph birth record. I had often wondered why you stole Josephs birth record? A few weeks ago I got my answer when you sent me the e mail with a picture of Josephs birth record saying I am a liar because your name was not on the birth record and my husbands name was put on file as his father. Sultan you know why I didn’t want your name on his birth record.
Now I can explain to the readers as to why.
I didn’t want Sultans name on the official birth record first and foremost he threatened if I did he would kidnap Joseph and I would never see him again (RED FLAG) With all the international child custody horror stories out there I refuse to ever give him access to my son when he is threatening to take him if I put his name on file or tell anyone that he is the father. Then there is the issue that Sultan did not want anything to do with his son, why on earth would I put his name down….Sultan does not deserve the honour of being listed as a father he is clearly not father or husband material. When I was presented with the fact that my husband could adopt Joseph and be put on his birth record I jumped on it. My husband who wants to be a father and loves every second he spends with his little arab prince deserved to adopt Joseph and be legally considered his FATHER. The safety and well-being of my son is to important to have a mad man listed as his dad. The day is coming where Sultan will be forced to do a DNA test and no amount of scheming lying and hiding will help. I look forward to the day I can post the results.
Just by some small miracle you are secretly wondering about how Joseph is doing in past couple of years……
Sultan he is still so short….he is going to have a little man complex….sound familiar?
His favourite colour is green and he loves to watch Yo-Gabba_Gabba & Pocoyo.
He loves spaghetti and pizza and can eat as much as a grown man. Sleeping with his blue blanket and pillow I made him for Christmas is a funny event every night. You would be so proud of how smart he is he can count all the way to a thousand and knows how to count by two’s threes excreta. Scary smart!! He loves to sing and dance to every day often on the black coffee table you left in my house. The sensitivity to clothes you had as a boy he shares, nothing scratchy on him or he will just strip all his clothes off ..even in public
Joseph is the poster child for cuteness. I do feel bad that you will never know what a light he is in this dark world. You will never know what it feels like to feel the world crashing down on you and have those small hands wrap around you in a hug and seeing the eyes of an angel looking back at you while he smothers you in kisses making all the troubles melt away. You have no idea what you have lost, the feeling of happiness you always wanted are not wasted on Matt, who is teaching Joey to be a little man. We get to see the child you refuse to and you have nothing to show of your life. I hope you will contact me about Joseph. Open your heart to the one person in your entire life who will want to know about you. He is your son…..please don’t have hate in your soul for an innocent child who did nothing wrong but have us as his parents.